I don't have particularly anything against Apple's new iPads, but this is a complete waste of taxpayers' money.

There has been no clear study showing any positive correlation, much less causality, between technology (ie, laptops, tablets) and education. This is just money down the drain.  We gotta let go of this delusional thinking that laptops & tablets would miraculously fix the broken education system.

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Originally Posted by tooltalk 

 

I don't have particularly anything against Apple's new iPads, but this is a complete waste of taxpayer's money.

 

There has been no study showing any correlation, much less causality, between technology (ie, laptops, tablets) and education. This is just money down the drain.  We gotta let go of this delusional thinking that laptops & tablets would miraculous fix the broken education system.

Software VS Teachers

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Being able to carry almost endless text books around with you is in of itself a break through. The cost saving in books over the time a student spends at high school will save the tax payers a fortune. What are you smoking? By the way, I am not in the profession any longer but I was and have a graduate degree in education.
Back on topic. Snatching up two iPads for every Mac isn't such a bad thing. How many iPads were snatched up instead of a PC too?

Really? Are you insinuating that the education system is failing because of *heavy textbooks*?  Are you f'ing kidding me?  

What cost saving? Schools are not getting free e-textbooks or iPads - most schools would probably end up with some convoluted subscription based e-textbooks that, in the longer run, would cost more. Most textbook publishers (and your local board of ed's) aren't interested in reducing the price of digital textbooks. Just look at the college textbook market, you still have to pay 1/4 of the retail price *per semester*.

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Originally Posted by tooltalk 

 

I don't have particularly anything against Apple's new iPads, but this is a complete waste of taxpayers' money.

 

There has been no clear study showing any positive correlation, much less causality, between technology (ie, laptops, tablets) and education. This is just money down the drain.  We gotta let go of this delusional thinking that laptops & tablets would miraculously fix the broken education system.

You are wrong. There were several studies showing that students who used iPads did better. Some of them were reported here and others in the mainstream media.

My sister's a teacher in a district in Ohio that has the OPTION of using iPads, and she says that hands-down the students pay more attention and focus longer with the iPads.

Plus, the students can carry the whole school-year of books, which they like, and seem to be more responsible in holding onto the iPads than they do heavy books.

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You are wrong. There were several studies showing that students who used iPads did better. Some of them were reported here and others in the mainstream media.

I always wonder about these surveys as schools buying iPads are usually schools with money and they typically do better than average schools even ignoring iPads v laptops v conventional text books.

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Originally Posted by junkdrop1 

My sister's a teacher in a district in Ohio that has the OPTION of using iPads, and she says that hands-down the students pay more attention and focus longer with the iPads.

Plus, the students can carry the whole school-year of books, which they like, and seem to be more responsible in holding onto the iPads than they do heavy books.

 

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Do you have any quantifiable results (eg, grades) that show her students are doing better?  

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Originally Posted by jragosta 

 

 

You are wrong. There were several studies showing that students who used iPads did better. Some of them were reported here and others in the mainstream media.

Really?  Is there any study not funded by the publishing business or Apple that supports your claim? 

There is only one randomized controlled study conducted by HMH using their FUSE program that provides data - not surprisingly funded by the namesake publishing company and Apple. Now, there are supposedly similar iPad pilot programs at 600 other institutions worldwide, so where are the results?  They all seem to claim uniformly that iPads *enhanced* students learning or students were engaged, but no measurable data to back up their claim?  Why?

Can you spell "conflict of interest" or "horse manure"?