Wow - us iphone 4 owners are really getting the shaft.  Pretty shitty move Apple - considering my phone is only a little over a year old.
 

Oh, why! I don't want to use the F word here but Android's been having that trouble for a while. It's clear that they *can* allow older phones to have Siri, turn-by-turn, dictation, etc, but it's clear they're making some choices here. The line seems kind of arbitrary about which iOS devices will get which features. The latest will always have all, of course, but we're going to need a matrix to determine while features will be on which devices when iOS 6 is released.

If the iPhone 4 can do FaceTime over Wi-Fi, it can do FaceTime over 3G...
 

Some may call it a thinly veiled exercise in getting people with iphone4's to buy new phones

.....Other's will call it business. Its all about the bottom line. And forcing people to upgrade ensures you have a pretty healthy bottom line. 

As for the F word, yeah, its real. As a developer you have some with turn by turn, some with 3d maps, some with facetime over cellular, some with 4" screens (supposedly), multiple processor and GPU differences, some with siri. But it is still not as bad as Android overall though. 

At the end of the day, as technology advances there is BOUND to be fragmentation of those on the cutting edge and those that still have devices from two or three years ago. Can't escape it. Just the way it is. 

Having the beta, I noticed this last night in that it didn't work.

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Originally Posted by dpriceslc 

If the iPhone 4 can do FaceTime over Wi-Fi, it can do FaceTime over 3G...
 

Of course, as does other services and jailbreaks. This is Apple writing it's own arbitrary rules.

I dont believe the sinister motive that many will write about. My guess is that Apple determined that pre-4S models didn't offer the minimum quality of user experience they wanted the public to have.

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Originally Posted by ddawson100 

Oh, why! I don't want to use the F word here but Android's been having that trouble for a while. It's clear that they *can* allow older phones to have Siri, turn-by-turn, dictation, etc, but it's clear they're making some choices here. The line seems kind of arbitrary about which iOS devices will get which features. The latest will always have all, of course, but we're going to need a matrix to determine while features will be on which devices when iOS 6 is released.

I don't understand some of the limitations (like the VIP feature in Mail being excluded from the 3GS) but I have a feeling I might know why Siri and FaceTime over 3G are limited. Both tax networks (Siri taxing Apple's resources, FaceTime taxing the carriers' resources) so limiting them in a way such as this also serves to limit the amount of resources consumed supporting the features, and naturally the newest devices should be supported if only a limited range of devices can be.

I could be wrong here, but it makes sense in my noggin.

(FaceTime over 3G could also be enabled optionally by carriers, but extending it to too many devices might have led to carriers flat-out denying it in general, at least in the United States where they are concerned with data usage on their networks).

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Originally Posted by ddawson100 

Oh, why! I don't want to use the F word here but Android's been having that trouble for a while. It's clear that they *can* allow older phones to have Siri, turn-by-turn, dictation, etc, but it's clear they're making some choices here. The line seems kind of arbitrary about which iOS devices will get which features. The latest will always have all, of course, but we're going to need a matrix to determine while features will be on which devices when iOS 6 is released.

From Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/psa-which-ios-6-features-can-my-device-run/

My suspicion is that only allowing FaceTime over 3G on iPhone 4S is a concession to the carriers who likely want FaceTime on as many iPads as possible (hence iPad 2 and the new iPad both having FaceTime over 3G) for the associated data plan but don't want FaceTime over 3G on every iPhone on their networks.

LOL... Xian Zhu Xuande beat me.


I am really upset that I won't get the 4" display update on my iPhone 4S when the new iPhone is released. What a crock!