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Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 01:30 pm
Apple's iTunes 8.2.1 update kills sync with Palm Pre
Apple released an incremental update to its iTunes software Wednesday afternoon, nixing the Palm Pre's ability to sync with the application.Last month, Apple warned Pre users that future software updates may kill sync capability with the device. Precentral.net confirmed the impact brought on by iTunes version 8.2.1.
When they unveiled the feature, handset maker Palm boasted about their smartphone's ability to transfer media from iTunes. The feature worked by identifying the smartphone in its hardware ID as an iPod -- a trick Apple warned might not work for long.
"Apple designs the hardware and software to provide seamless integration of the iPhone and iPod with iTunes, the iTunes Store, and tens of thousands of apps on the App Store," Apple warned a document released in June. "Apple is aware that some third-parties claim that their digital media players are able to sync with Apple software. However, Apple does not provide support for, or test for compatibility with, non-Apple digital media players."
When it released the update Wednesday, Apple was vague about what benefits version 8.2.1 offered users.
"iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices," was all a release note stated.
It is available from Apple's Web site, and also via system update.
The last iteration, version 8.2 of iTunes, was released June 1. It provided support for the iPhone and iPod touch with the 3.0 OS software upgrade. It also included accessibility improvements and bug fixes.
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Originally Posted by theelfismike 
Apple's attempt to block Pre syncing with iTunes as an iPod?
Apple's attempt to block Pre syncing with iTunes as an iPod?
Update states:
iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices.
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Originally Posted by theelfismike
Apple's attempt to block Pre syncing with iTunes as an iPod?
Apple's attempt to block Pre syncing with iTunes as an iPod?
I'd say it's quite likely this will break Palm's syncing hack. Now iTunes probably uses more than just USB ID to identify the iPod/iPhone.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
It is available from Apple's Web site, and also via system update.
It is available from Apple's Web site, and also via system update.
Commonly known as Software Update?
Yea, I guess that's what Pre gets for advertising "$1200 cheaper than a iPhone 2 year contract with AT&T"
My friend has two iPhones, he pays $220 a month. Jesus!
I only pay $10-$20 a month for AT&T voice with their pay as you go.
Got $19 a month broadband.
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Originally Posted by CurtisTheGeek
Update states:
iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices.
Update states:
iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices.
Well isn't Pre hacking considered an iTunes bug?
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
"iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices," was all a release note from Apple stated.
"iTunes 8.2.1 provides a number of important bug fixes and addresses an issue with verification of Apple devices," was all a release note from Apple stated.
This means it doesn't carelessly dump IBEC and IBSS files during your iPhone 3GS restore into /tmp/ or &TEMP* directories. I can already sense the coming pain.... "I followed your guide but it didn't work! I can't jailbreak anymore! WTF unlock doesn't work anymore!"
Its coming guys... Apple's really serious on jailbreaks now. Its a shame, really is.
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Originally Posted by MacTripper
Yea, I guess that's what Pre gets for advertising "$1200 cheaper than a iPhone 2 year contract with AT&T"
My friend has two iPhones, he pays $220 a month. Jesus!
I only pay $10-$20 a month for AT&T voice with their pay as you go.
Got $19 a month broadband.
Yea, I guess that's what Pre gets for advertising "$1200 cheaper than a iPhone 2 year contract with AT&T"
My friend has two iPhones, he pays $220 a month. Jesus!
I only pay $10-$20 a month for AT&T voice with their pay as you go.
Got $19 a month broadband.
If he pays 220 a month he is exaggerating or lying.
My bill is $172 and I have two iPhones' and one normal phone.
That includes unlimited texting, which is my biggest complaint. I have downloaded over 5 gigs of data on my phone, but im still charged 30 bucks for sending a few MGb of texts.
Yep, it breaks Pre syncing. Search for "#pre" on twitter hehe
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Originally Posted by Elijahg
I'd say it's quite likely this will break Palm's syncing hack. Now iTunes probably uses more than just USB ID to identify the iPod/iPhone.
I'd say it's quite likely this will break Palm's syncing hack. Now iTunes probably uses more than just USB ID to identify the iPod/iPhone.
I wonder if purposely removing it is in Apples best interest. I think it may even be in Apples best interest to allow other devices to connect to iTunes. My reasoning is two fold.
The app is very common and its a key part in the success in the iDevice ecosystem. With so many people using iTunes to manage their music and with the iPod having a monopoly position its possible that some places like the EU may look to force Apple to not require iTunes support to use an iDevice. (Hell, theyve done crazier shit and they dont have the FairPlay ax to grind to anymore)
Second, If they allow other devices to use iTunes then Apple still has consumers using their app and their iTunes Store, yet they still cant get videos or apps, which may pull them back to an iDevice in the future. Plus, the iTunes library files and DB are transparent so Palm, albeit with a little effort and cost, could create an app or tie into a 3rd-party app that they can use, bypassing iTunes altogether. While buying a non-iDevice doesnt benefit Apple, bypassing both Apples HW and iTunes benefits them even less; not to mention that Apple has had plenty of time to put the kibosh on the Palm Pre access at this point and havent.
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Originally Posted by MacTripper
Yea, I guess that's what Pre gets for advertising "$1200 cheaper than a iPhone 2 year contract with AT&T".
Yea, I guess that's what Pre gets for advertising "$1200 cheaper than a iPhone 2 year contract with AT&T".
But that is if you do a direct comparison of services. Since I dont support SMS and usually dont more than the minimum minutes per month the price for the Pre and the iPhone offer services at the same cost of $69/month for me. I also get the phone I want and rollover minutes, which is peace of mind I like (Im under the impression that Sprint doesnt offer that and I dont feel like looking it up).
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Apple's attempt to block Pre syncing with iTunes as an iPod?