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Apple accused of deleting songs from iPods without users' knowledge

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During in-court proceedings of Apple's iPod/iTunes antitrust lawsuit on Wednesday, plaintiffs' lawyers claimed Apple surreptitiously deleted songs not purchased through the iTunes Music Store from users' iPods.

Attorney Patrick Coughlin, representing a class of individuals and businesses, said Apple intentionally wiped songs downloaded from competing services when users performed a sync with their iTunes library, reports The Wall Street Journal.

As explained by the publication, users attempting to sync an iPod with an iTunes library containing music from a rival service, such as RealNetworks, would see an ambiguous error message without prompting them to perform a factory reset. After restoring the device, users would find all non-iTunes music had disappeared.

"You guys decided to give them the worst possible experience and blow up" the iTunes library, Coughlin said.

It is unclear if iTunes or iPod encountered a legitimate problem, though Coughlin seems to be intimating Apple manufactured the error message as part of a supposed gambit to stop customers from using their iPod to play back music from stores other than iTunes.

For its part, Apple said the system was a safety measure installed to protect users. In testimony, Apple security director Augustin Farrugia said additional detail about the error's nature was not necessary because, "We don't need to give users too much information," and "We don't want to confuse users." He went on to say that Apple was "very paranoid" in its protection of iTunes, a sentiment echoed in an executive email penned by Steve Jobs in 2004.

Heard in court yesterday, Jobs' emails and a videotaped deposition revealed Apple was "very scared" of breaking contractual sales agreements with music labels, which in turn prompted an increased interest in digital rights management (DRM). Although iTunes no longer sells DRM-protected content, Jobs said frequent iTunes updates were needed to protect as "hackers" found new workarounds.

Apple is accused of creating a monopoly locking users into a closed ecosystem with FairPlay digital rights management (DRM), the iPod and the iTunes Music Store. The class includes individuals and businesses who bought iPod classic, iPod shuffle, iPod touch or iPod nano models between Sept. 12, 2006 and March 31, 2009, and plaintiffs are seeking $350 million in damages, an amount that could be tripled to over $1 billion under U.S. antitrust laws.

Aside from Jobs' deposition, current Apple execs Eddy Cue and Phil Schiller are scheduled to testify later this week.



79 Comments

tallest skil 14 Years · 43086 comments

Mhmm. Something like this was REALLY hidden for a decade. Yep. This wouldn’t have been immediately reported from here to Honduras, no way.

 

Sarcasm aside, how stupid can people be to claim something like this? It’s not even remotely true. Their entire lawsuit isn’t even remotely true. Never was. How has it existed for a decade? How are they allowed to have it continue? How are the lawyers not disbarred and the plaintiffs imprisoned for criminal stupidity?

Colibrinyc 17 Years · 16 comments

Biggest bucket of manufactured garbage I have heard in awhile. Since 2002, I have had 9 iPods and used iTunes, Rhapsody and my own collection of purchase physical media. No problems. I call BS on these greedy bastards.

magman1979 11 Years · 1301 comments

To me, it sounds like people were hacking their iPod's to allow non-iTunes content with DRM to go onto the devices, and I remember anytime I tried that, iTunes detected improprieties on the device that needed a restore. I don't see this as an issue one bit, and if this is what that scumbag lawyer is using as his main playing chip, the all I have to say to him is... [SIZE=6]UP YOURS[/SIZE]

benjamin frost 11 Years · 7198 comments

[quote name="MagMan1979" url="/t/183712/apple-accused-of-deleting-songs-from-ipods-without-users-knowledge#post_2647284"]To me, it sounds like people were hacking their iPod's to allow non-iTunes content with DRM to go onto the devices, and I remember anytime I tried that, iTunes detected improprieties on the device that needed a restore. I don't see this as an issue one bit, and if this is what that scumbag lawyer is using as his main playing chip, the all I have to say to him is... [SIZE=6]UP YOURS[/SIZE][/quote] I couldn't agree more. If you break Apple's terms and conditions, then you get what you deserve. I would be delighted if Apple were to write an app that detected pirated or malicious music and software. In the event of a positive, Apple forces the user to enter a 666 digit password every time he wants to play a track or open an app. And also confirm the password with copy/paste disabled.

slurpy 15 Years · 5390 comments

What a fucking sham. Yeah, I'm sure the plaintiffs were so traumatized over these fictional claims. Never mind the fact that Apple was the main driving factor behind killing music DRM for good, with that open letter Steve Jobs penned. 

 

Also, I've never had any iPods "delete" anything, but sure.