Changing the supplier will not make a difference. Putting some non-Chinese Apple staff into the factory 24/7 and running an independent complaint center, instead of relying on annual spot-checks might...

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The body has been cremated......already. There goes the chance for an independent autopsy. A settlement with his family? How much was the kid's life worth I wonder.....a year's worth of rice to feed the family?
They are really trying hard to sweep this one under the rug huh? Where is the justice?
Will the tablet help people forget about this? Mactouch ftw.....not.

Whatever. There's an investigation. And all the factories are the same. If the factory broke any laws... then Apple is responsible to take measures to fix things. But they didn't push the kid out the window.

They might as well have. And those Foxconn bastards sure as hell did! If those are the types of people Apple insists on doing buisness with then they are accessories to murder! How the hell am I supposed to bring myself to purchase future Apple products knowing this?

Well said. It is refreshing to see someone hold Apple accountable for such things unlike most of the people on this forum that worship at the Apple and Jobs altar!

Do you ask yourself that question while gazing at your reflection in your glossy screen Mac?

Yesterday another "famous person" commented on the stupidity of the cops for their LEGAL actions when taunted by a an irrational black racist, & now we similarly have comments on the horrible behavior of Foxconn. The video of the interrogation of the suicidal employee showed NO beating yet the commenters still insist that he was beaten. I'm not defending Apple or Foxconn, but at least let the facts come out before you cast aspersions on people you might happen to not like.

I don't own a mac. I own a 2nd gen ipod touch and a ipod nano and that's all. The music I have has been mostly bought at amazon and some old .mp3s ripped from CDs from years back.
I've been eyeing Apple for a couple years now wondering whether I should buy a mac. PC gaming keeps me from buying one and the uneasiness I feel sometimes over Apple's draconian control approach to computing.
This situation now sure as hell isn't helping.

That might not be an option. Remember that this is a factory in another country, with its own laws etc. Apple has to follow those laws. They can't just demand putting their people in factories and such and get it because they want it. the hoops, regulations etc might make it impossible.


Again, this is another country, one where Apple doesn't have extreme power. even here in the US there is little the company can do on its own. it has to work with and within our laws.

Also, there seems to be a lack of evidence that the young man was beaten and the verbiage used is highly inflammatory. Illegal Search, Solitary Confinement, Detained. the use of the phrase dormitory room begs the question, who owned it and what 'landlord' privileges existed (is it possible that the employer owned said room and the right to search it was in the deal). Isolating the young man from anyone else while the room was being searched and while questioning to keep him from passing information to a partner isn't that far fetched etc. and there are even differing stories about the timeline, when the missing item was discovered and where. One version makes it sound like he found the error and reported it 4 days later, another that he sent the package and one was missing when it got to the US 4 days later and he never said a word (sure would look like he was guilty of something if he signed they were all in the box and sealed it himself).

The only easy to agree item is that the company should have called the police and turned him over to them for all the questioning etc. Not handled it 'in house' as it seems they were. But it is possible that they were a tad embarrassed and worried that in fact Apple could pull the contract or least not renew it and cost them a small fortune. Word got out on them in the end but the motives behind not calling the cops might not have been as Mafia as the papers are painting it.

and until all those issues are settled, I"m not screaming 'off with their heads' on anyone. Foxconn or Apple. I'm saving that for when we have the actual facts.


All tech companies try to keep what they are working on a secret. Apple is no different. As for the restricted hardware, they provide company trained tech support. much of it for free to the customers. if they opened things up to every possible configuration, they couldn't do that support. and it would make eliminating bugs and such a lot harder than it is now.

if you don't like either issue, don't agree with it, etc. then don't buy a mac.

Why change?

Just ensure that Foxconn meets a certain level of standards.

Apparently there's no proof as to whether the employee was roughed up by security, etc. But that's neither here nor there.

The suicide is unfortunate, but it isn't Apple's responsibility. Apple themselves conducted the earlier investigation, and they'll likely handle this matter properly.