Google's Android revenue $31 billion over OS's entire lifetime, Oracle lawyer says

Funny to see people complaining (various forums) about this (the Oracle lawyer publicly speaking details that were supposed to be confidential).

Yet when Samsung lawyers did the same with Apple (making a statement to the media that shouldn't have been made) it was OK.

Just shows that hypocrisy continues to reign supreme.

ericthehalfbee said:

Funny to see people complaining (various forums) about this (the Oracle lawyer publicly speaking details that were supposed to be confidential).

Yet when Samsung lawyers did the same with Apple (making a statement to the media that shouldn't have been made) it was OK.

Just shows that hypocrisy continues to reign supreme.

 ?? I don't recall anyone saying the Samsung instance was OK. Confidential should mean exactly that, don't you agree? 

Anyway, the important takeaway is that Google doesn't get rich from Android according to the leak. Of course the leak doesn't explain how the figure was arrived at AFAIK. I think articles like this one are guessing how Oracle arrived at it and the period covered, but not entirely certain. It would not shock me at all to find Oracle actually overstated it since it benefits them to do so. 

In any event I would not be surprised if Google would have made a different choice knowing what they do now. When the decision was made to use the API's as an organizer (that's the only code Oracle is claiming) it was Sun who controlled it. While they might not have been overjoyed at the way Google used Java they also at least publicly had no complaints about it and in fact congratulated them on Android, welcoming them to the Java platform. I imagine most code creators at the time did not believe a license was needed for API's. Some still don't believe they do. 

So a couple years go by and here comes Oracle to scoop up Sun. They have a different view on it, monetization plans for Java that Sun never intended when they created it.  In essence nothing was "stolen" from Oracle. When Sun created and owned it it Google's use was at least begrudgingly acceptable. (Mr guess is the relationship Schmidt had with them but it's just that, a guess). Oracle suspected they knew what they were buying even if Google did not. Smart guy. 

Had they anticipated that someone else might someday buy up the IP and more aggressively use it as a money-maker I believe Google would have taken a license to begin with whether they thought they needed one or not back in the day. Hindsight is 20-20. IMHO Google will end up paying a $B or more for their oversight, tho out-of-court would be my guess. 

AppleInsider said:

The Android operating system has reportedly generated $31 billion in revenues for Google since it first launched in 2008, creating $22 billion in profits largely from mobile advertising.

The information was revealed at a court hearing last week by a lawyer for Oracle, which is suing Google on the accusation that it used Java to develop Android without paying for it, according to Bloomberg. In a more recent filing, Google protested the lawyer's disclosure, arguing that it was based on confidentially shared internal documents and that parts of the public transcript of the hearing should be redacted and sealed.

The transcript in fact disappeared from electronic court records on Thursday afternoon without any sign of a ruling on Google's request.

Google makes most of its Android-based revenue from mobile ads, or from a cut of app sales on Google Play. The company does sell branded phones and tablets, but these are developed in cooperation with third-party hardware makers and are often deliberately sold at a lower profit margin as showcase devices. Most Android hardware revenue is generated outside of Google.

The new data indicates that Apple's iPhone revenues from the September quarter alone (about $32.2 billion) surpassed what Android has made over its entire lifespan. The two revenue streams are very different however, and more apt points of comparison would be iAd and the App Store, if iAd were Apple's primary business instead of a shrinking sideline.

Big deal, Apple generates that kind of profit in one quarter.

ericthehalfbee said:

Funny to see people complaining (various forums) about this (the Oracle lawyer publicly speaking details that were supposed to be confidential).

Yet when Samsung lawyers did the same with Apple (making a statement to the media that shouldn't have been made) it was OK.

Just shows that hypocrisy continues to reign supreme.

You have a point.  What gets me is that Google in fact does understand and value privacy.  It's just MY privacy that they don't give a damn about!

sog35 said:

Talk about a one trick pony. Looks like all of Google's future revenue growth is dependent of iPhone.

Android grow has stalled.
Desktop search is shrinking every year.
Only iOS is growing.

Yet Wall Street gives Google a PE of 30 while giving Apple a PE of sub 7 sans cash.

So what is worse?

Apple who Wall Street says is a one trick pony with iPhone?
Or a company like Google who relies on a company like Apple who is a so called one-trick pony?

If Apple ever pulls the plug on iOS Google search its over. Google would instantly lose 80% of their revenue growth. So how the HELL does Wall Street view Google as 4x more safe of an investment than Apple?

Your constyant bashing of Tim Cook and comments like this makes you a parody of yourself

delreyjones said:

ericthehalfbee said:

Funny to see people complaining (various forums) about this (the Oracle lawyer publicly speaking details that were supposed to be confidential).

Yet when Samsung lawyers did the same with Apple (making a statement to the media that shouldn't have been made) it was OK.

Just shows that hypocrisy continues to reign supreme.

You have a point.  What gets me is that Google in fact does understand and value privacy.  It's just MY privacy that they don't give a damn about!

And how they don't give a damm about it?