Google updates iPhone search app with changes intended to boost usage, customization

sog35 said:

hope I can ditch Google search some day soon.

I want Apple to make their own search engine. The fact is 90% of iOS users use Google anyway.

I would trust Apple with my private information much more than Google. At this point Apple isn't giving us a choice.

Apple can create a search engine that does responsible ad selling like they do on their other platforms.

What private information of yours is Google using without your permission, and for what? That's a totally honest question. 

sog35 said:

hope I can ditch Google search some day soon.

I want Apple to make their own search engine. The fact is 90% of iOS users use Google anyway.

I would trust Apple with my private information much more than Google. At this point Apple isn't giving us a choice.

Apple can create a search engine that does responsible ad selling like they do on their other platforms.

You could use Siri, which basically uses Bing. Perhaps yo utrust them more. Or go with others. Apple would struggle to be any near as good as google if it doesn't use some of the data from its users to understand its users, and also to encourage advertisers.

Also, if you dont want any data minding, expect APple to charge for it. It's not free to operate a web search engine. The nearest thing we have now is SIRI, and that ,you indirectly pay for.

sog35 said:

gatorguy said:

sog35 said:

hope I can ditch Google search some day soon.

I want Apple to make their own search engine. The fact is 90% of iOS users use Google anyway.

I would trust Apple with my private information much more than Google. At this point Apple isn't giving us a choice.

Apple can create a search engine that does responsible ad selling like they do on their other platforms.

What private information of yours is Google using without your permission, and for what? That's a totally honest question. 

None. I opted out of everything.

But I have a feeling they still have my information some how

I've opted out of a few pieces of data collection too in areas that I don't see where it benefits me but opting out of EVERYTHING seems like cutting off my nose to spite my face since doing so would make their services of limited value to me, no better really that going to DDG for searches or Carbonite for photos and document storage and retrieval. Google knowing my preferences and expectations is what makes Google services overall a valued asset for me personally. I know for a fact the search results are both much faster and a lot more likely to be pertinent by simply allowing Google access to previous searches. 

On a sidenote I suspect Apple has some information on me too, in fact I know they do, but I've been unable to find the user dashboard or whatever it would be that lays out what they at least think they know about their users. I would reasonably expect there must be some page somewhere where you can view and/or delete what they've collected (and yes as with Google with my permission) while making use of assorted Apple services, perhaps even correct inaccurate user details they may have connected to me.

sog35 said:

hope I can ditch Google search some day soon.

I want Apple to make their own search engine. The fact is 90% of iOS users use Google anyway.

I would trust Apple with my private information much more than Google. At this point Apple isn't giving us a choice.

Apple can create a search engine that does responsible ad selling like they do on their other platforms.

Again coming form the guy that keeps saying Apple needs to sell user information as revenue stream. Please be consistent here, are you worry about personal privacy and not monetizing personal information, or do you want Apple to do like google and make money on your personal information.

You know why Apple ads failed, ad buyers refuse to pay unless Apple was willing to tell them who was seeing the ads and other user information that allows ad buyers to know their ad are getting in front of the right people. Advertisers will not pay unless they know more about who you are, so apple has been unable to cross this river without getting wet in the process. Google is already in the swap, and consumers are thinking twice whether they want to say in the swap with Google.

I don't know how I feel about this. The best thing about that app, to me, is the focus on my personal stuff. I really *like* the Google Now concept.

For me at least, making news and current event stuff front-and-center is going to cause me to use the app less, not more.

I have other apps that I like (Apple News, Google Newsstand, Feedly) for getting my news from, and I don't really want the feed to get smarter and smarter (by which they mean more and more narrowly focused on showing me just things that match my preconceived notions or prejudices).

This is a meh for me. Wonder how other people will receive it.