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Danish court rules Apple not allowed to dole out refurb iPhones for service swaps

A Denmark court has ruled that in cases of iPhones purchased new, that Apple can't give a refurbished phone in exchange for new, as there is no guarantee that the resale value is retained with the exchange.

The ruling, handed down on Friday, is a literal reading of the Danish Sale of Goods Act by the three-judge panel, which requires that customers' devices be replaced with a new unit if they can't be repaired within a mandated 24-month warranty. Apple's refurbished units, which may consist of some or all used parts repaired to Apple's standards, have now been deemed unacceptable for customers in the country as a result of the mandate by the court.

The complainant, David Lysgaard, purchased an iPhone 4 in 2011. In 2012, he was given a replacement device for his broken iPhone, which he was reportedly told was new. At some point after receipt, he discovered that the phone was refurbished, and not new stock.

Apple argued that since it was the original device manufacturer, that it could certify repair parts as effectively the same as new, and still meet the requirements of Danish law.

The judge ruled that since the refurbished unit could contain recycled or re-built parts, that it can't qualify as a new phone, and as such, did not meet the customer's expectation. Additionally, the court apparently took no notice of the fact that the phone was already used by the customer before being brought in for service, and declared that resale value may be impacted by the refurbished state of the phone.

Lysgaard was supported by the Consumer Complaints Board throughout the entire process.

Apple currently has no comment on the matter. It will likely appeal the matter to the high court.

Apple faces the same battle in the U.S.

In July, Apple was hit with a class action suit filing in California, with the same complaint as Lysgaard — that refurbished devices are not the same as new, and shouldn't be used as service exchanges. Lawyers for the claimants declare in the suit that refurbished means "a secondhand unit that has been modified to appear to be new" and therefore, cannot be equivalent in durability or functionality to a new unit.

The U.S. court case will also hinge on the definition of refurbished, and on how the court interprets "equivalent to new in performance and reliability," which was in Lysgaard's terms of service from the start of the process.

Parts that are replaced in a repair at an Apple authorized service location are required to be returned to Apple for evaluation and potential component level repair, with the goal of an eventual return to service stock.

While some parts on Apple iOS devices can't be refurbished, like the displays, damaged devices claimed by Apple during the repair process are often sent to a central depot for examination. They are repaired, or "refurbished," and either sent back into the service replacement process, or re-sold by Apple or an allied vendor directly to consumers as a refurbished product.



71 Comments

sunman42 12 Years · 305 comments

I don't even play a lawyer on TV, much less speak Danish, but what remedy would the judges suggest if someone brought in a one year, 364 day old phone for warranty replacement? A brand new phone, or a refurb?

lkrupp 19 Years · 10521 comments

sog35 said:
This is pretty dumb.

This is like buying a car. Then your car has a recall 2 years latter. And you demand a brand new car.

No such comparison. In the case of your car it’s still the same car you bought and is repaired by the manufacturer. Now if Apple were taking the original phone in and repairing THAT phone and returning it to the customer, no problem. But customer wouldn’t like that either as they might be without a phone for some period of time. So because actual repair of the phone is both difficult and time consuming (depending on what’s wrong) Apple decided to offer refurbished units for on-the-spot replacement. Most are probably fine with that arrangement because the original warranty is still in place. But as with anything there are those that won’t be satisfied no matter what unless they get what they want, namely a brand new phone. If this case goes against Apple then they should probably stop with replacements altogether and just repair the defective phones no matter how long it takes. Let the lemon laws dictate when they are required to replace a unit. I most lemon laws require three repair attempts before mandatory replacement. How well do you think that would go over?

lkrupp 19 Years · 10521 comments

sunman42 said:
I don't even play a lawyer on TV, much less speak Danish, but what remedy would the judges suggest if someone brought in a one year, 364 day old phone for warranty replacement? A brand new phone, or a refurb?

What about just repairing the device, no replacement needed? Hey, you might be without a phone for a few days but it honors the warranty. Most warranties state that repair or replacement is at the discretion of the manufacturer. All I’m saying is be careful of what you ask for.

dysamoria 12 Years · 3430 comments

Good. There's no telling what's potentially wrong with a refurb that's been missed and when you paid for a new device, you should not be given a not-new in exchange after finding out your brand new device has a defect.

This should be standard, everywhere, for all "replacement as warranty service" situations. If you start with a new product that has a defect, you should end up with a new product without defect as warranty protection against defect.

For mobile devices and laptops/desktops.

No, I don't think it should be mandated for repair instigated by damage. Give the customer an option between actual repair or replacement with refurb. Oh wait, Apple doesn't have the will to do component level repair even though we know it's possible...

inplainview 9 Years · 21 comments

The Eu has established MUCH better consumer protection laws than in the US. I think this is good. Either giver the guy a new phone and similar 2 year manufacturers warranty or tell him he has a refurbished phone which will be promptly refused, and Apple will then be required to issue a new phone regardless.