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Apple & others back Google in opposing FBI warrant for overseas emails

Apple has reportedly joined Amazon, Cisco, and Microsoft in signing an amicus brief in support of Google, which a Pennsylvania court recently ordered to hand over emails from foreign servers in compliance with an FBI warrant.

"When a warrant seeks email content from a foreign data center, that invasion of privacy occurs outside the United States — in the place where the customers' private communications are stored, and where they are accessed, and copied for the benefit of law enforcement, without the customer's consent," the brief said according to Business Insider.

The amicus parties also argued that other countries view such warrants as an "extraterritorial act on the part of the U.S. government," and that complying with the FBI would invite those nations to demand email from American citizens.

It's up to the U.S. Congress to decide whether the Stored Communications Act can be applied to overseas data, not the court, the brief continued. As added defense it referred to a Microsoft court victory in January, in which the company successfully refused to hand over emails stored on Irish servers. A government appeal to have the case reheard was denied.

Apple likely has a vested interest in the Google case, given the potential for countries like China or the U.K. to request data from its American data centers. It's also working on its first European centers in Ireland and Denmark, though the Irish facility has yet to begin construction owing to outside concerns over issues like power consumption and environmental damage.

Under CEO Tim Cook, Apple has also taken a broader pro-privacy stance, most famously refusing to code a backdoor into iOS so the FBI could access the iPhone 5c of San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook. The agency ultimately paid for outside help, something which is still drawing investigation by news agencies.



14 Comments

aaronj 15 Years · 1588 comments

Sorry, James Comey -- there's no way you're getting your hands on my love letters back and forth with Taylor Swift.  NO WAY!Seriously, though, it's pretty clear who's in the right here.  This will be interesting to follow.

dysamoria 12 Years · 3430 comments

I see my awful state of PA is getting into this crap now...

tbehunin 17 Years · 56 comments

I'm definitely pro-privacy, but this one seems a little different. Given a scenario where there was a US warrant for data extraction, the data center resides in the US, and the company in question (e.g. Google) would normally comply with the court order and hand over the data in in question, I'm struggling to understand how it would be any different when the data center is not in the US. If the data center and it's data is owned by Google, I don't think it matters where the data is physically located, right? Maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy...

holyone 8 Years · 398 comments

tbehunin said:
I'm definitely pro-privacy, but this one seems a little different. Given a scenario where there was a US warrant for data extraction, the data center resides in the US, and the company in question (e.g. Google) would normally comply with the court order and hand over the data in in question, I'm struggling to understand how it would be any different when the data center is not in the US. If the data center and it's data is owned by Google, I don't think it matters where the data is physically located, right? Maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy...

As I see it it's a question of jurisdiction the infrustructure in question is out of the FED's legal area of operation (America) thus it lacks the authority, just as the FBI can't get a warrant to search a house in China as they have zero authority there even if that house belonged to an American, what they were suppose to do is ask cooperation from the local authorities of wherever the data center Is, but J Edger's brats think they can do as they please in the name of Islamic terror 

The real question is how much thought do these guys put on the consequence of these demands, coz you can bet you're mama's china ;)  that if such a thing ever prevailed other countries would do the same thing to American citizens would the FBI be cool with that ? 

gatorguy 13 Years · 24627 comments

sog35 said:
So Google does not like it when others spy on them? 

How ironic.

You should read a little more carefully...
 Or at least read a little

This has zero to do with anyone spying on Google. It's all to do with what is legally required disclosure of information that might (or might not be) important to a law enforcement related investigation.  It's an issue where fandom has no place.