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Apple and Verizon said in talks for 2010 iPhone

Once believed to have blown its first chance at the iPhone, Verizon is now claimed to be in discussions with Apple for its own version of the iPhone in 2010.

Pointing only to anonymous people familiar with the negotiations as its sources, USA Today explains that Verizon reportedly entered serious talks before Steve Jobs' hiatus and has been continuing those talks even with Jobs temporarily sidelined for medical reasons.

Other than a 2010 target release window, little else is divulged by the apparent insiders.

Although not explicitly stated, the newspaper infers that the phone would be a CDMA device compatible with Verizon's existing network and therefore using EVDO for its 3G Internet access. Such a move would give the phone broad coverage but directly contradicts Apple COO Tim Cook's own dismissal of CDMA last week: when discussing iPhone expansion plans, the executive justified the absence of a CDMA model by arguing that a single, GSM phone model is easier to produce than building a separate version for a relatively small batch of customers. Cook also sharply criticized CDMA by asserting that it has no future, as most CDMA carriers plan to phase out the calling technology in favor of the same 4G standard that will be used on GSM networks.

More likely is a direct leap to a 4G. Verizon chief executive Ivan Seidenberg recently explained that a deal is more likely for a phone with the advanced networking technology as it would let Apple continue making one phone but still service North American carriers that are for now off limits. Verizon plans to officially launch its commercial 4G network in early 2010 and would therefore have at least some of its network ready for an iPhone by the time AT&T's exclusivity term ends, which is likely for the same year.

However determined Verizon may be to land an iPhone of its own, AT&T may topple those ambitions through its own discussions. Separate rumors have the incumbent iPhone carrier pushing Apple to extend its US exclusivity until 2011 — enough to stall any Verizon deal until AT&T's own 4G network is ready.

Any successful deal, no matter the network type, would likely be a serious blow to AT&T, which credited much of its ability to weather the ongoing economic crisis to iPhone sales and the resulting spike in data revenue. Aside from reducing incentives to launch massive, special upgrades to the network, a Verizon model would let those dissatisfied with AT&T' s 3G coverage or its customer service defect to Verizon without giving up Apple's handset.



112 Comments

ibill 19 Years · 401 comments

Verizon can pound sand.

AT&T forever!

randythot 15 Years · 109 comments

Looks like more FUD and ball-breaking negotiation tactics coming from Apple.
After the 1st Verizon rejection, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jobs personally snub them this second time, all the while, negotiating an even better deal with AT&T, and make 4G available to Verizon once AT&T's 4G network debuts.
I love how Apple is working over the carriers to help profits, innovate, and protect the iPhone platform. If the App Store keeps growing, their leverage does too.

dagamer34 17 Years · 494 comments

Unlikely to be in 2010, more like 2011. Apple will cite chipset immaturity and wait for lower-power chipsets. Look at the reasoning behind the original iPhone not having 3G and the *apparent* decrease in battery life in the iPhone 3G.

Plus, there's no reason for Apple to jump on the LTE bandwagon on an unproven network infrastructure. Not when you have your image at stake.

randythot 15 Years · 109 comments

Does anyone know if 4G will sound better than AT&T and Verizon's current voice quality? I've always found the CDMA standard chosen for Sprint and Verizon slightly better than GSM 3G.

ibill 19 Years · 401 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by randythot

I love how Apple is working over the carriers to help profits, innovate, and protect the iPhone platform.

I agree, Apple is playing one carrier off against another. Considering how pathetic all the carriers are in the states, can you blame them? Can you give them credit?

I do.

Give them credit, that is..