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Third-party remote platform support for Siri in iOS 12, tvOS 12 will be a game changer

In what amounted to little more than a toss-away line during Apple's WWDC keynote, Craig Federighi offhandedly mentioned that in tvOS 12, Apple was working to bring more Apple TV functionality, including Siri, to third-party remote platforms. This is a big deal, and AppleInsider discusses why.

Not only can third-party remotes control Apple's set-top box, but they can now even invoke Siri — something that has thus far been limited to Apple's own Siri Remote.

I've used many smart or universal remotes regularly in my home. In the years of the third-generation Apple TV, I was a steadfast Logitech Harmony user.

Apple forced a change when the fourth-generation launched, bundled with the new voice-enabled Siri Remote. The Harmony was still able to control the Apple TV, but couldn't query via Siri. So, I was forced to abandon my Harmony controller.

Considering that Siri was, at that time, the only way to interface with HomeKit devices, it was a problem for me.

Since the keynote, Federighi's offhanded remark stuck with me as I pondered the reach of this new upcoming functionality. Little information has been released thus far, making it harder to discern what will, and won't, be possible.

What we do know, is that several companies have come on board to offer this new functionality in their own smart remotes. Control4, Crestron, and Savant have all been name-dropped by Apple as partners who are interested in adopting it. What this means, is that there can now be IP control of the Apple TV, with voice commands coming through new devices such as Crestron's TSR-310 touchscreen remote.

Siri has become more and more useful in recent years. Users can ask Siri to control any HomeKit device, including the HomePod or third-party AirPlay 2 speakers. Now that Siri can be baked into these new smart remote systems, they too can be used to control any of those devices.

HomeKit remotes

What's more, as AppleInsider reported shortly after WWDC, is that these new remotes that work with the Apple TV, will also support HomeKit. Many possibilities exist with that simple change.

Again, we don't know how this will all play out for sure, but it has really had me thinking of what we could do. Will these "remotes" act as controllers for other HomeKit devices? Could I see my entire inventory of HomeKit devices listed on the screen of a Control4 controller?

Or, are these remotes simply added as devices to be controlled like the rest? In this scenario, any IR or RF device could be controlled. Remotes exist for blinds, TVs, ACs, receivers, speakers, fans, and more.

If this pans out, manufacturers can create an IR/RF blaster that can "learn" commands from "dumb" remotes, similar to how the Siri remote learns new commands to control the volume on a receiver. Then, you could tell Siri to turn on the TV, change the input, change the channel, control my cable box, etc.

Unofficially, adding remotes to HomeKit was possible using an aftermarket solution called Homebridge that is used to bring additional features to HomeKit. Homebridge usually requires quite a bit of know-how and is, of course, not supported by Apple.

In a tutorial I wrote a few months back, I showed users how they could create their own HomeKit-equipped camera this way. While this can be fun for those willing to tinker, it is not a solution for the vast majority of users and even the tech shamans run into problems as evidenced by the comments on the article.

HomeKit Home app

Having remotes added to HomeKit could really be a game changer for users not interested in hacks or workarounds. Instead of buying an expensive HomeKit-enabled fan, any existing model with a remote could be effortlessly added to HomeKit with a new HomeKit remote.

And, TVs, receivers, and speaker systems could all be controlled through Siri and HomeKit without any large expenditure. The same goes for AC units and many, many more devices. Even controlling accessories from non-Apple devices would be huge. In-wall touchscreen controllers, other non-HomeKit smart homes that interface with these more robust systems like the aforementioned Control4, Savant, and Crestron.

I'm holding out hope that this new remote control functionality will come with iOS and tvOS 12.0 this fall, but in all reality, it could be delayed like has often been the case. Apple intended to ship the water controller/sprinkler functionality with iOS 11.0, but instead, it didn't make it's way out until iOS 11.2 and 11.3. Devices like the Eve Aqua, were held up substantially as a result.

If the remote category doesn't launch with the initial release of iOS 12, it could end up being more than a year away before we actually see any HomeKit remotes make it to market, and this would be a shame.



9 Comments

nunzy 6 Years · 662 comments

 I just hope that apple is charging plenty of royalties for this. Why should any third-party be allowed to make money off of apples inventions and apples customers?

hmurchison 23 Years · 11824 comments

I was most pleased by these two announcements.   I'm planning on buying Savant this fall or next spring and while their IP stuff is really cool the $ensible solution for TV distribution in my home will be an ATV attached to each TV.  Now that IP control and Remotes are part of HomeKit I'll be able to integrate these into my entire home system. 

ireland 18 Years · 17436 comments

nunzy said:
 I just hope that apple is charging plenty of royalties for this. Why should any third-party be allowed to make money off of apples inventions and apples customers?

Yeah, Apple will go out of business any day now.

jdmac29 14 Years · 42 comments

I need this for the Logitech harmony hub. With Alexa skill it is hit and miss with the voice commands. Hoping Siri can change that. 

fastasleep 14 Years · 6451 comments

nunzy said:
 I just hope that apple is charging plenty of royalties for this. Why should any third-party be allowed to make money off of apples inventions and apples customers?

How does allowing a 3rd party remote to control an already-purchased Apple TV (with unused Siri Remote) make any bit of difference to Apple? All this does is make the ATV more attractive to people with universal remotes for all their boxes.