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US Army wants Steve Jobs-like iPhone-style design process for next-generation rifles

The M41A Carbine, a gun intended to be replaced under the Next Generation Squad Weapons program

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The U.S. Army has compared the production of future weaponry to Apple's creation of the iPhone as it searches for a contractor to design and produce next-generation rifles, with the hope the next gun created for the military will produce a similar level of revolution to "small arms."

A notice was issued at the end of January by the U.S. Army Contracting Command seeking proposals for prototypes in its "Next Generation Squad Weapons" (NGSW) project. The government plans to allow up to three contractors to develop two weapon variants under the scheme, intended to replace existing weapons currently in use by active military personnel.

While the proposal doesn't offer much in the way of specific detail for what the U.S. Army particularly wants, officials at the Armament Research, Development, and Engineering Center (ARDEC) have suggested the guns could be produced as a brand-new platform, similar to the iPhone, reports The National Interest.

"Imagine that Steve Jobs and his engineers were trying to convert the iPod Touch to the first 3G iPhone," suggested Army Col. Elliott Caggins, project manager for the new weapons. "There are a thousand technologies they could have put in the first iPhone but they were looking to mature the platform before they could actually go onto the system."

While the statement offers a questionable understanding of events regarding Apple's product releases, the rest of Caggins' commentary is clear in its intent, that the project is meant to create a new platform rather than to simply bolt on additions to an existing and older framework, such as with the M4A1 improvement program.

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The call for prototypes reveals there are a few weapons intended to be created under the program. The NGSW-Automatic Rifle is a planned replacement for the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, in the automatic rifleman role in the Close Combat Force, while the NGSW-Rifle is meant to replace the M4 and M4A1 Carbine.

Successful contractors will need to deliver 53 units of the NGSW-R and 43 of the NGSW-AR, as well as 845,000 rounds of ammunition, spare parts, test barrels, tools, gauges, accessories, engineering support and iterative prototyping efforts.

Among the new capabilities wanted in the weapons is a fire control system produced to boost the probability of hitting the target at extended ranges. On a more high-tech level, an Advanced Small Arms Ballistic System, an onboard processor that shrinks down the positioning and rangefinding system of artillery pieces, is also wanted, along with a sensor suite to help users account for changes in pressure and density, and a multi-laser rangefinder for estimating wind speed that can adjust the rifle's positioning.

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ravnorodom 9 Years · 734 comments

Not sure iPhone inspired will do the trick. I thought those weapons from video games and sci-fi movies are pretty dawn cool and slick looking.

ericesque 8 Years · 29 comments

I think Apple has already submitted their design...  🔫

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seanismorris 9 Years · 1624 comments

I read it twice and have no idea what they’re asking for...

It kind of sounds like they are asking for a car platform model, where all the cars share same core parts and they’re just modified slightly to get a $35K SUV to $55K SUV, and use the same platform for vans and passenger cars.

The idea is because they share parts, the cost is in the development of the platform, but actually building and maintaining it is cheaper.

The problem is if there is one part that fails if fails across the entire platform, which results in everything being recalled.

Why they would want this in a weapon system is unknown.  The basic weapon isn’t that complicated, and is relatively inexpensive to produce. Existing designs already share standardized rail systems to add accessories.

I suppose the weapons could share literal parts (pins, grips, safety switches, etc) similar to the standardized bullet sizes...

But, frequently different troops use different weapons, often made by different manufacturers, to best fit their jobs.  An Army grunt doesn’t use the same weapon as the different special forces.

Is the military going to mandate different manufacturers use the same parts?... it kind of defeats the point.  Sounds like an invasion of the bureaucrat (bean counter)...

Why Apple is even mentioned... I have no idea.  Apple products don’t share parts, in fact it’s the opposite, every part is specialized and the commonality is the OS.

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longpath 21 Years · 411 comments

I read it twice and have no idea what they’re asking for...

It kind of sounds like they are asking for a car platform model, where all the cars share same core parts and they’re just modified slightly to get a $35K SUV to $55K SUV, and use the same platform for vans and passenger cars.

The idea is because they share parts, the cost is in the development of the platform, but actually building and maintaining it is cheaper.

The problem is if there is one part that fails if fails across the entire platform, which results in everything being recalled.

Why they would want this in a weapon system is unknown.  The basic weapon isn’t that complicated, and is relatively inexpensive to produce. Existing designs already share standardized rail systems to add accessories.

I suppose the weapons could share literal parts (pins, grips, safety switches, etc) similar to the standardized bullet sizes...

But, frequently different troops use different weapons, often made by different manufacturers, to best fit their jobs.  An Army grunt doesn’t use the same weapon as the different special forces.

Is the military going to mandate different manufacturers use the same parts?... it kind of defeats the point.  Sounds like an invasion of the bureaucrat (bean counter)...

Why Apple is even mentioned... I have no idea.  Apple products don’t share parts, in fact it’s the opposite, every part is specialized and the commonality is the OS.

From what I can tell, they are looking for a modernized version of the Stoner 63, with the inclusion of smart optics that will automatically compensate for angle, trajectory, range, and crosswind. There is already a rifle with these capabilities on the market, albeit at a fairly steep price; but it is not nearly robust enough to scale up to a squad support weapon. Applying that optic tech to the Stoner 63 would meet the specs I've seen; but I doubt they'll go with such a straightforward solution. instead, they'll reinvent the wheel in order to charge tax cows more.


As far as why Apple is mentioned, it seems that whomever composed that reference was under the erroneous impression that the iPod Touch begat the iPhone, instead of the other way around, and then used that erroneous understanding to describe a process where a basic framework had mature technologies added to it until it had the desired finished capabilities.

nht 15 Years · 4491 comments

I read it twice and have no idea what they’re asking for...

It kind of sounds like they are asking for a car platform model, where all the cars share same core parts and they’re just modified slightly to get a $35K SUV to $55K SUV, and use the same platform for vans and passenger cars.

The idea is because they share parts, the cost is in the development of the platform, but actually building and maintaining it is cheaper.

The problem is if there is one part that fails if fails across the entire platform, which results in everything being recalled.

Why they would want this in a weapon system is unknown.  The basic weapon isn’t that complicated, and is relatively inexpensive to produce. Existing designs already share standardized rail systems to add accessories.

I suppose the weapons could share literal parts (pins, grips, safety switches, etc) similar to the standardized bullet sizes...

But, frequently different troops use different weapons, often made by different manufacturers, to best fit their jobs.  An Army grunt doesn’t use the same weapon as the different special forces.

Is the military going to mandate different manufacturers use the same parts?... it kind of defeats the point.  Sounds like an invasion of the bureaucrat (bean counter)...

Why Apple is even mentioned... I have no idea.  Apple products don’t share parts, in fact it’s the opposite, every part is specialized and the commonality is the OS.

They want a common platform to replace the M4 and M249.  While the M4 is an adequate weapon for which several next gen options have been explored, for the most part the resulting weapons are better but not better enough to bother with.  The M249 on the other hand is heavy/bulky and the USMC has replaced it because of that reason with the M27 IAR for fire teams and reserving the M249 for more static use.

The Army, being the Army, can't use something the USMC picked hence the NGSW.  If bean counters are involved its because while amateurs talk tactics while professionals study logistics.  The final buy for a NGSW is on the order of 250,000 weapons and 150M rounds of ammunition.

Since they are looking at a next gen system it's not even using the 5.56 as a baseline but a new 6.8mm round. Another reason for a common buy.

The iPhone is mentioned because it represented a paradigm shift in smartphones.  The Army wants a paradigm shift in small arms...a smart gun.  They want technology that can provide one-shot one-kill for the average infantryman.  The downside is that the average infantryman will need to hump around more batteries in addition to heavier ammo.  

Okay, they claim they will have a non-battery version but at that point the M4 is an adequate platform.

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