Apple suffers setback in new VirnetX patent suit over FaceTime
AppleInsider Staff
As Apple gears up to defend itself against another lawsuit from patent holding firm VirnetX, the iPhone maker was dealt a blow late last week after the presiding judge issued a series of pre-trial rulings denying Apple's motion to preemptively invalidate some of VirnetX's patent claims and preventing the use of invalidity as a defense against others.
Apple had argued that a number of the claims being used against it were not specific enough to warrant patent protection, and thus should be invalidated under the "indefiniteness" standard. Among the disputed terms were "secure name service," "secure name," and "unsecured name."
U.S. District Judge Leonard Davis rejected Apple's interpretations — and denied the company's motion to strike the terms as indefinite — following what is known as a Markman hearing, in which the court examines the meaning of specific key words or phrases in patent documents.
Separately, Davis ruled that Apple may not question the validity of any of the patent claims that were at issue in the last court battle between the two companies, which resulted in a $368 million judgement for VirnetX. Apple is free to use that defense against newly-asserted claims, however.
"We are extremely pleased with the court's rulings and we remain confident in the merits of our complaint against Apple," VirnetX CEO Kendall Larsen said in a release. "We believe the court's Markman Order and motion ruling represents another significant step towards the successful resolution of this litigation."
VirnetX first sued Apple in 2011, alleging that FaceTime violates the former's secure communications patents. Following VirnetX's victory, Apple altered FaceTime's behavior to avoid infringement — a move that is said to cost the companyas much as $2.4 million per month and has increased customer complaints — but VirnetX believes that those changes were not enough.
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Does it cost more to work around the patent than to pay royalties for using it? Even if it costs more to license than work around. isn't the customer satisfaction worth it? I think Find My Friends also infringes on a similar VirnetX 4G security patent. When FMF was first introduced, it used to track one's friends in real time. Now it gives general locations and doesn't allow updates very often, even when done manually.
Honestly, my FaceTime has never worked 100% since Apple made these changes. I too think Apple should just pay the royalties, rather than continued customer dissatisfaction.
Why is it Apple can't use software design in patents and everyone else gets too? Samsung and others get to easily design around Apple patents yet Apple can't even challenge the obvious non-specificity of the VirnetX patents? Without being specific VirnetX is getting away with saying words so general it's like patenting the word "tool" making any tool covered under their patents instead a hammer or screwdriver, two totally different types of tools. Apple has had to be extremely specific and comprehensive in their patents while other don't need to be. Add this judge to the list of Apple haters.
I believe Microsoft already pays VirnetX for a license. Anyone know if Google licenses?
[quote name="SpamSandwich" url="/t/181774/apple-suffers-setback-in-new-virnetx-patent-suit-over-facetime#post_2577004"]I believe Microsoft already pays VirnetX for a license. Anyone know if Google licenses?[/quote] [URL] http://virnetx.com/licensing/current-licensees/[/URL] from that list, no