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Google self-driving car bears 'some responsibility' in accident for first time ever

Though Google's automated vehicles have been involved in a handful of minor accidents on the road, those were all caused entirely by other, human drivers. But that changed with an accident in California earlier this month.

The incident was revealed in documents filed with the California Department of Motor Vehiclesm unearthed by by Re/code on Monday. They reveal that a self-driving Lexus RX450h hit a municipal bus in Mountain View.

The DMV's accident report states that the self-driving Lexus was attempting to merge back into traffic and avoid some sandbags on the road in front of a storm drain. The Google-controlled vehicle apparently saw the bus in its rear view mirror and assumed it would stop or slow down, but instead, it kept going.

In all, it was a low-speed accident: Google's vehicle was moving at just 2 miles per hour, while the city bus was traveling at 15 miles per hour. There were no injuries, and the report only made mention of damage sustained by Google's car.

After news of the crash surfaced online, Google offered its own account of the accident, saying that similar incidents happen "between human drivers on the road every day."

"This is a classic example of the negotiation that's a normal part of driving — we're all trying to predict each other's movements," the company said. "In this case, we clearly bear some responsibility, because if our car hadn't moved there wouldn't have been a collision. That said, our test driver believed the bust was going to slow or stop to allow us to merge into the traffic, and that there would be sufficient space to do that."

On public roads, Google's self-driving cars were previously known to have been involved in 17 different accidents. But in each of those incidents, human drivers were said to be at fault, making the Feb. 14 incident the first time Google's vehicle can shoulder some of the blame.

While Google's autonomous vehicle efforts are out in the open, Apple's own "Project Titan" is a secret development said to be underway not far from the company's corporate headquarters. AppleInsider's own sources and research have indicated that the bulk of this development is underway in a series of buildings in the city of Sunnyvale.

Specifically, Project Titan is said to be based out of a building known internally as "SG5." It's there that a company by the name of SixtyEight Research has been operating, prompting speculation that it could be a shell corporation used by Apple to fly under the radar.

Reports have suggested that Apple is hoping to put its own vehicle on the road by 2019, but that the first-generation model won't be a self-driving car. Autonomous capabilities are said to be a more ambitious, longer-term goal for Apple —  something that could be difficult and potentially dangerous to implement, as evidenced by Google's accident in Mountain View.



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hike1272 10 Years · 15 comments

Of course...
a private citizen's car runs into a Government vehicle and the Government official says that it is the citizen's fault.
i call bullshit!

i have seen this in real life involving real people.  the citizen received a ticket by the officer who caused the accident.  the citizen protested and the duty officer arrived and issued the citizen another ticket.  the citizen protested and the highway patrol was called.  the highway patrol officer gave the officer the ticket and the judge suspended the officer's license for 6 months.  quite funny.  I guess google will have to program the ability to dispute a ticket with their cars.  If corporations are people, then cars are people too!

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josu 9 Years · 217 comments

Yes, Google is liable of a big offense to good taste with that horrendous pod. Thanks that I'm old enough and leave in a city center where I can go by feet to most parts, because given the option to walk or ride in that insult to good taste, I prefer to walk. OK that I live in a benign climate place helps. If I where living say, in Chicago, I would feel more inclined to be seen in that stylistic abortion.

shamino 18 Years · 543 comments

hike1272 said:
I guess google will have to program the ability to dispute a ticket with their cars.  If corporations are people, then cars are people too!

I'm sure these cars are going to have lots of recording equipment - both sensors and video.  Otherwise it will be a human driver's word against ... nothing.  Google won't want the liability and the passenger in the driver's seat certainly won't.

With a solid record of the incident, there's plenty of evidence for insurance companies (and a court, if necessary) to review and come to a decision.  And possibly a better one than would be reached if it was two human drivers and a lot of possibly-inaccurate testimony.

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SpamSandwich 20 Years · 32917 comments

hike1272 said:
Of course...
a private citizen's car runs into a Government vehicle and the Government official says that it is the citizen's fault.
i call bullshit!

i have seen this in real life involving real people.  the citizen received a ticket by the officer who caused the accident.  the citizen protested and the duty officer arrived and issued the citizen another ticket.  the citizen protested and the highway patrol was called.  the highway patrol officer gave the officer the ticket and the judge suspended the officer's license for 6 months.  quite funny.  I guess google will have to program the ability to dispute a ticket with their cars.  If corporations are people, then cars are people too!

Actually, according to the law self-driving cars are people:  http://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-autos-selfdriving-exclusive-idUSKCN0VJ00H

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melgross 21 Years · 33631 comments

hike1272 said:
Of course...
a private citizen's car runs into a Government vehicle and the Government official says that it is the citizen's fault.
i call bullshit!

i have seen this in real life involving real people.  the citizen received a ticket by the officer who caused the accident.  the citizen protested and the duty officer arrived and issued the citizen another ticket.  the citizen protested and the highway patrol was called.  the highway patrol officer gave the officer the ticket and the judge suspended the officer's license for 6 months.  quite funny.  I guess google will have to program the ability to dispute a ticket with their cars.  If corporations are people, then cars are people too!

If the bus was acting properly, and the car made an error in expecting that the bus wouldn't move, then whose fault is that?

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