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Laurene Powell Jobs talks philanthropy & Steve Jobs in rare interview

Laurene Powell Jobs and Steve Jobs at a 2011 Apple conference(photo credit: Bloomberg)

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In a rare interview, Laurene Powell Jobs discusses her late husband Steve Jobs, and the philosophy of philanthropic efforts honoring the late Apple founder.

The widow of the late Apple CEO is a very private person, and rarely gives public interviews. Even more rare is her candidness around Steve Jobs and what being married to him was like.

"I inherited my wealth from my husband, who didn't care about the accumulation of wealth," she said. "I am doing this in honor of his work, and I've dedicated my life to doing the very best I can to distribute it effectively, in ways that lift up individuals and communities in a sustainable way.

The "this" Laurene Powell Jobs refers to is her efforts in journalism. She is very outspoken against the current administration and believes that our democracy is at risk if proper journalism isn't available. She is also heavily invested in Emerson Collective, a foundation she runs to spur her interests in better journalism, which acquired a majority stake in The Atlantic In 2017.

"I'm not interested in legacy wealth buildings, and my children know that," she added. "Steve wasn't interested in that. If I live long enough, it ends with me."

Laurene Powell Jobs, widow to Steve Jobs (photo credit: New York Times) Laurene Powell Jobs, widow to Steve Jobs (photo credit: New York Times)

Many of the topics discussed in the New York Times interview echoed the philosophies carried by Apple today. Steve Jobs kept no secrets in regards to his desires and political standpoints. Apple CEO Tim Cook and Laurene Powell Jobs share many of the same initiatives.

Tim Cook often says "We must leave the world better than we found it." Powell Jobs shares a similar sentiment.

"We don't have to accept the world that we're born into as something that is fixed and impermeable," Powell Jobs said in the interview.

Steve Jobs' desire for a better future rubbed off onto his closest friends. One such shared effort is in their push for Dreamers legislation, an 18 year fight that she is "resolved to never give up as long as I live."

Steve Jobs and Laurene Powell Jobs met while Jobs was still at NeXT, and were together for 22 years before his untimely demise. Powell Jobs said that they had a beautiful and rich connection, and he influenced everything. They would spend hours every day talking, so much so that Powell Jobs says she integrated much of who he was into who she is today.

"People love to quote him saying, 'put a dent in the universe.' But that's too flippant. It's too cavalier. He was thinking of it as 'We are able, each of us, to manipulate the circumstances,'" said Powell Jobs. "I think about it as looking at the design of the structures and systems that govern our society, and changing those structures."

"Because those structures, when they're elegantly designed, should be frictionless for people," she concluded. "They shouldn't require you to make huge course corrections that impede your ability to live a productive and fulfilling life. It took me a while to understand that was truly possible. But that's at the core of everything we do at Emerson Collective. We all believe that it's truly possible."

Based on the interview, the philosophy of frictionless simplicity and elegance fit into every facet of the Jobs' lifestyle, and not in just the design of Apple's products.



25 Comments

eriamjh 17 Years · 1772 comments

Steve would have been perceived to have a little more empathy beyond his rough exterior interacting His subordinates if she convinced him to be more philanthropic while he was still alive.  

I guess better late than never.  🤷‍♂️

knowitall 11 Years · 1648 comments

Does she mean Steve Jobs children do not inherit anything?

GeorgeBMac 8 Years · 11421 comments



"I'm not interested in legacy wealth buildings, and my children know that," she added. "Steve wasn't interested in that. If I live long enough, it ends with me."
I have heard variations of that same comment made about almost every great entrepreneur.  They are not in it for the wealth or even for the power.  Rather they are driven by an inner drive and an inner vision to accomplish something.  For them, money is, at most, just a way to keep score.

Lesser mortals tend to think its all about chasing after money and power.

Steve however was heavily influenced by Zen Buddhism which stresses how fleeting and transitory such pleasures are from accumulating money and 'stuff'.  Not only is the pleasure transitory, but the more you collect the more you want -- which creates a vicious cycle wanting and unhappiness.

Perhaps an idea attributed to Steve also says it:  When he said that (to paraphrase) 'freedom and success come when you realize that they are no smarter than you".  I suspect that the combination of the two is what opened him up to be the best that he could be and to do all that he was capable of doing.

godofbiscuits 10 Years · 249 comments

AI: you know, you reported and excerpted an interview done by someone else and published somewhere else without giving credit to who did it and where, much less provide a link to it.  

cornchip 11 Years · 1943 comments

AI: you know, you reported and excerpted an interview done by someone else and published somewhere else without giving credit to who did it and where, much less provide a link to it.  


is this the link you were thinking of?


Many of the topics discussed in the New York Times interview echoed the philosophies carried by Apple today. Steve Jobs kept no secrets in regards to his desires and political standpoints. Apple CEO Tim Cook and Laurene Powell Jobs share many of the same initiatives.