WhatsApp hit with record $267 million fine in Ireland

Facebook, like Google, is a marketing company. Like Google, they profit from knowing a lot about us. They can paint a pretty detailed picture based on our FB activities, and through cookies they track us on the internet. But they couldn’t know what we did beyond the internet. So they buy WhatsApp. Now they have our phone numbers. Every time we give a company our Tel number, they sell it on to marketing firms, who sell it on to FB. Now they know what we buy in supermarkets, pharmacies, the clubs we join etc. 

Alex_V said:

Facebook, like Google, is a marketing company. Like Google, they profit from knowing a lot about us. They can paint a pretty detailed picture based on our FB activities, and through cookies they track us on the internet. But they couldn’t know what we did beyond the internet. So they buy WhatsApp. Now they have our phone numbers. Every time we give a company our Tel number, they sell it on to marketing firms, who sell it on to FB. Now they know what we buy in supermarkets, pharmacies, the clubs we join etc. 

No doubt this is what’s troubling the EU, because FB will be motivated to keep that part of WhatsApp’s role hidden. Google, on the other hand, already have your number if you use Android. 

Thing is, the EU cartel watchdogs explicitly made it a condition of Facebook's WhatsApp purchase that WA data NOT be shared with Facebook. Everybody knew that it was bullshit, because this was precisely the reason for the acquisition in the first place, but FB signed off on it, and I sincerely hope they get fucked to the full extent of cartel law when they break it. 

I’ve refused to join WhatsApp so far despite contacts who prefer it for communication.  

Vermelho said:

I’ve refused to join WhatsApp so far despite contacts who prefer it for communication.  

Why not just use Apple messages (with SMS support for the dweebs)?  My Japanese wife uses Line, which I reluctantly signed on to for when she travels. 

FB messenger is an evil I deal with for distant contacts especially foreign. Always move people over where possible.  The now college kid uses it with buddies for laughs, but not with me.

Naive question here. What(app) the hell is the advantage of it?  Seems to be just for trivial shit that auto deletes.  I guess some limited privacy for those in nefarious pursuits.  Maybe it’s a storage saver for media rich exchanges?

My wife has family in Europe and many/most of them use WhatsApp, even if they have an iPhone. I think the main advantage of it is the fact that everyone uses it. 

I’ve never used an Android phone, but my guess is for android users it gives the advantage of iMessage. I used to use it some and at the time it seemed to suck the battery on my iPhone. 

I refuse to use it for the reasons you stated. Of course I refuse to use Facebook, too, but that doesn’t stop everyone else from using it.