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Fraud is being ignored on Zelle by its big banking founders

Banks are ignoring the widespread problem of fraud on Zelle, a report claims, with the major financial institutions that founded the service seemingly not caring about issues with the payments platform.

Zelle is a popular payments app in a slowly saturating marketplace, one that enjoy backing from a group of major banks. However, that same group appears to have an indifferent attitude to fraud, with claims that it isn't their problem.

Customers who are victims of fraud that involves Zelle are being told there's little that the banks can do, and in some cases saying it wasn't fraud at all, despite the backing.

In one example told by the New York Times, customer Justin Faunce lost $500 to a scammer pretending to be a Wells Fargo official in January, one that occurred through Zelle. However, Wells Fargo says the payment wasn't fraudulent since it was authorized by the user, despite being tricked into the transfer.

Another customer, Bruce Barth, had a thief steal his phone and abuse his digital wallet, making charges to his credit card, withdrawing cash from an ATM, and making $2,500 in Zelle transfers. All of the accounts were held at Bank of America, which refunded all but the Zelle transfers.

According to BoA, the transactions were validated by authentication codes and therefore were authorized. This was said even though the phone was stolen and out of his control.

Barth said he "filed grievances with every agency" but all responses were "useless" in his case.

The banks are also aware that there is fraud occurring on Zelle. In reporting the fraud, Faunce was told by a bank representative "A lot of people are getting scammed on Zelle." and that "many people were getting hit for thousands of dollars."

Rules are rules, except when they're not

Part of the problem is that the banks believe they are absolved of responsibility due to Regulation E federal laws about electronic transfers, which specify they cover only "unauthorized" transactions. In scams where victims are tricked into providing confirmation codes to scammers, this is seen as being an authorization.

Customers also can't argue with Zelle about the transaction, since it is operated by Early Warning Services, a firm owned by seven banks. The list includes both Bank of America and Wells Fargo, as well as other major entities including Capital One and JPMorgan Chase.

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has tried to change matters, by advising banks in 2021 what fraud types they are required to reimburse consumers over. Under the guidance, banks must pay for transfers "initiated by a person other than the consumer without actual authority to initiate the transfer," which includes cases where the victim's iPhone or other smartphones are stolen.

However, the CFPB hasn't covered who is responsible if it is a case of fraud when the user is involved in the transaction by pressing buttons. The bureau say it "is aware of the problem and considering how best to address it."

It is this confusion that gives banks an opening to deny a repayment of lost funds through fraud.

"There are certain indicators that we look for in the investigation to let us know that there has indeed been fraud on the account," Wells Fargo told Faunce in a February 23 letter. "During the investigation, we were not able to find any of those indicators present and denied the claim."

While it is unclear how much money is being lost to scams through Zelle, the platform does play host to a considerable amount of transfers. In 202, Zelle facilitated $490 billion in transfers, more than double the $230 billion that passed through main rival Venmo.



13 Comments

chadbag 13 Years · 2029 comments

I only use Apple Pay with Apple Cash, or if need be PayPal, to send money to others.  Or I give them a check. I don’t use Venmo or Zelle.  I don’t  trust them.  (Yes I know Venmo is owned by PayPal but it runs differently — I am sure they have upgraded their security but I worked at a payments startup several years ago and we looked at Venmo and it’s security and policies and found them lacking at the time). 

I have had people pay me through Zelle (or it’s predecessor under a different name) but I won’t use it to send (or link my accounts to it for more than receiving  — I’ve only had a couple people at most send me that was several years ago). 

The banks better start addressing this issue or they will see their investment go down the toilet as people flee their service as word gets around. 

mike1 10 Years · 3437 comments

Banks are ignoring the widespread problem of fraud on Zelle, a report claims, with the major financial institutions that founded the service seemingly not caring about issues with the payments platform.

Customers who are victims of fraud that involves Zelle are being told there's little that the banks can do, and in some cases saying it wasn't fraud at all, despite the backing.

In one example told by the New York Times, customer Justin Faunce lost $500 to a scammer pretending to be a Wells Fargo official in January, one that occurred through Zelle. However, Wells Fargo says the payment wasn't fraudulent since it was authorized by the user, despite being tricked into the transfer.
Wow. Talk about not taking responsibility for your own actions.
The first example is the worst if you are looking to place blame. The idiot was scammed out of $500. What difference does the form of payment make? Change the transaction type from Zelle to Apple Pay to cashier's check to cash. You'd have the same end result. Problem has nothing to do with Zelle.

larryjw 9 Years · 1036 comments

I've had to deal with both Zelle, and Venmo because that was the only way a few vendors wanted to be paid. I don't like either. 

In some cases, some vendors want me to send a check. I don't write checks anymore but my bank issues a check on my behalf. But, my bank takes week just to think about it, then mails it, which takes another week. In one case, the vendor who received the check took another week to cash it, then it takes time for the Fed do all this interbank transfers. 

The Fed recently published a working paper on the pros and cons of the Fed issuing CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency). It's an interesting read at https://www.federalreserve.gov/central-bank-digital-currency.htm

In 2023 the Fed will implement the FedNow service that will allow almost instantaneous financial transactions 24x7x365. See https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/fednow_about.htm

You can be sure Apple among others are not sitting on their hands. 

shareef777 16 Years · 136 comments

mike1 said:
Banks are ignoring the widespread problem of fraud on Zelle, a report claims, with the major financial institutions that founded the service seemingly not caring about issues with the payments platform.

Customers who are victims of fraud that involves Zelle are being told there's little that the banks can do, and in some cases saying it wasn't fraud at all, despite the backing.

In one example told by the New York Times, customer Justin Faunce lost $500 to a scammer pretending to be a Wells Fargo official in January, one that occurred through Zelle. However, Wells Fargo says the payment wasn't fraudulent since it was authorized by the user, despite being tricked into the transfer.
Wow. Talk about not taking responsibility for your own actions.
The first example is the worst if you are looking to place blame. The idiot was scammed out of $500. What difference does the form of payment make? Change the transaction type from Zelle to Apple Pay to cashier's check to cash. You'd have the same end result. Problem has nothing to do with Zelle.

Exactly what I was thinking. Being suckered is indeed fraud, but that happens (and has been happening since the dawn of man) with all forms of currency.

ronn 20 Years · 688 comments

"....customers [should] treat Zelle as they would cash. 'Don’t hit the button to send this money unless you would hand this person $100 and walk away, because the moment you send it, it’s gone' said Peter Tapling, a former executive at Early Warning who is now a payments consultant"

It's just common sense. Except for the hospitalized customer who had his phone stolen, others in the news article were careless and should learn from the experience. I assist several elderly people with online transactions and issues, and I have to constantly remind them to not give out personal information to random callers/texters. My grandmother never falls for BS like this. If anything, she likes to give scammers the run-around. Keeping them on the phone for several minutes till they're frustrated and hang up on her. She's helped her friends avoid scams as well.