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Verizon says LTE phones incompatible with other carriers

Verizon Wireless confirmed on Thursday that 4G LTE phones it sells will be incompatible with rival networks in the U.S. because of spectrum differences.

Sascha Segan of PC Mag reports that, according to Verizon spokeswoman Brenda Raney, the carrier's Long-Term Evolution handsets will not "be compatible on other LTE networks in the U.S." because "the phones will be on different frequencies."

Verizon's 4G network operates mostly in the 746-787MHz range, compared to AT&T's 704-746MHz. Segan notes that a small portion of Verizon and AT&T spectrum overlaps in an area called the "lower B block," while adding that Verizon and AT&T could easily build their phones to exclude each other's frequencies.

Meanwhile, MetroPCS uses the 1700-MHz band for its LTE network. AT&T has indicated plans to use the same band, and Verizon owns spectrum in the same frequency, but it's unclear to what extent the exact frequencies for each carrier would overlap.

Verizon and AT&T already face incompatibility with their 2G and 3G networks. In order to launch the iPhone 4 on Verizon, Apple had to reengineer the device to work on a CDMA network.

During a recent event, several AT&T executives were unable to answer whether the carrier's upcoming LTE devices would be able to roam onto Verizon's network, Segan said. AT&T plans to bring LTE to 15 markets by the end of 2011, a full year behind Verizon. The company has accelerated its plans and hopes for its 4G network to be "largely complete" by the end of 2013.

Verizon launched its LTE network late last year, touting real-world data rates of between 5 and 12 megabits per second downstream, and 2 to 5 Mbps up.

Overseas, spectrum incompatibility gets even worse. According to the report, the International Telecommunication Union has approved a number of different bands for LTE, including "700, 800, 850, 900, 1500, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, 2300, and 2600MHz."

Seegan does, however, go on to note that it is "physically possible to build phones that cover both Verizon's and AT&T's frequencies" and the matter may come down to a "business arrangement." Given Apple's partnerships with the two companies, the company could negotiate dual-mode LTE capability ahead of an LTE iPhone launch.

However, Apple is reportedly not ready to release an LTE iPhone this year and is expected to delay the device until at least next year. Apple may have an edge over rival handset makers after having purchased critical LTE-related patents from Canadian telecom equipment maker Nortel.

Verizon executives are confident that Apple is indeed hard at work on an LTE-capable phone. "You'll see more coming from Apple on LTE," CEO Dan Mead said earlier this year. "They understand the value proposition of LTE and I feel very confident that they are going to be a part of it."



39 Comments

jamesmcd 14 Years · 68 comments

"touting real-world data rates of between 5 and 12 megabits per second downstream"

Seriously? I get 5-7 megabits per second on my crappy 3G in my city of 100,000 people.

richl 17 Years · 2211 comments

The best 3G modems currently handle 5 bands. 12 seems unlikely but covering just two should be feasible very early in the life of LTE.

aaarrrgggh 18 Years · 1607 comments

Come on, government regulators! Do your job! This incompatibility is ultimately bad for everyone, including the telcos.

onhka 15 Years · 1024 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh

Come on, government regulators! Do your job! This incompatibility is ultimately bad for everyone, including the telcos.

Perhaps a little reading will help you understand why there are differences. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone.htm

Keep in mind the costs to make wireless work. And nobody, individuals, enterprises or governments will or can afford to develop a system that works for everyone.

bestkeptsecret 13 Years · 4289 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onhka

Perhaps a little reading will help you understand why there are differences. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone.htm

Keep in mind the costs to make wireless work. And nobody, individuals, enterprises or governments will or can afford to develop a system that works for everyone.

I do not have access to the article you have linked to (thank you SonicWall!), but I thought it would be something akin to GSM phones. Initially, there were dual band GSM phones and then you had the so-called "world phones" which supported 3 bands and finally quad-band GSM phones which are "truly world phones".

So, are you saying that it isn't that simple with LTE and that initially there may be no phone that covers all the frequencies?

Not that I am too worried anyway. 3G is just coming up where I live and LTE is really a long time away.