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Apple hires two Google satellite execs for 'new hardware team'

Apple has reportedly hired two executives from Google's satellite division to head up "a new hardware team," with goals that are still unclear.

The two people include John Fenwick, Google's head of spacecraft operations, and Michael Trela, who was in charge of satellite engineering, Bloomberg said on Friday. In February, Google confirmed a deal to sell off its satellite mapping business, Terra Bella, to Planet Labs. Google's parent company Alphabet likely wanted to cut out the expense of launching and running satellites.

Fenwick and Trela are reporting to Dropcam co-founder Greg Duffy, who joined Apple in January, according to Bloomberg sources. Duffy's hiring was confirmed by Apple but likewise mysterious, with other sources only hinting that he was probably working on a special project.

The new hires were at one point co-founders of Skybox Imaging, a satellite imaging startup Google bought in 2014 for $500 million. It designed fridge-sized satellites capable of producing detailed, rapidly-updated images of the Earth's surface.

Apple could conceivably want to launch its own satellite cluster, which would provide it with proprietary data for Apple Maps instead of having to rely on third parties. Such a project might cost billions however, and involve hiring many more people.

Bloomberg noted that aerospace giant Boeing has allegedly talked to Apple about investing in a project to put over 1,000 satellites in low Earth orbit for expanding internet access. Boeing's technology would purportedly offer faster-than-cellular speeds.

For Apple this would presumably increase the appeal of its devices and services, guaranteeing access even in places normally cut off from broadband. Unlike other companies that have explored global internet, such as Google and Facebook, Apple wouldn't gain any significant advertising revenue.



49 Comments

Kevin KJL 7 Years · 2 comments

Apple sets up its own cellular 5G network that supplements all carriers so any Apple device has better coverage than all competitors regardless of what carrier or features they support.

lkrupp 19 Years · 10521 comments

Trouble is we hear abut these hires and special projects and nothing ever comes of them. Still relying on the iPhone to keep the ship afloat. Everything else appears to be a ‘hobby’. Sort of like Google’s barge in San Francisco bay. You’d think the world’s most valuable company, drenched in cash, would be able to juggle several major products at the same time. But everything is always ‘in the pipeline’ isn’t it?  New iMacs? In the pipeline. New Mac Pro? In the pipeline. Streaming packages? In the pipeline. Self-driving vehicle? Maybe in the pipeline. VR/AR? In the pipeline. AppleTV? Only God knows. That pipeline should be constipated by now. Apple = iPhone and Google = Advertising. And not much else.

fastasleep 14 Years · 6451 comments

lkrupp said:
Trouble is we hear abut these hires and special projects and nothing ever comes of them. 

Not with that attitude.

avon b7 20 Years · 8046 comments

Kevin KJL said:
Apple sets up its own cellular 5G network that supplements all carriers so any Apple device has better coverage than all competitors regardless of what carrier or features they support.

There are patent issues surrounding 5G and although the spec isn't finished yet, I don't know if Apple has any.

We are now entering a new age of cheaper micro satellites and there have already been calls for a system to control the amount of new hardware that gets put into orbit.

Apple has the cash to put a cluster into orbit like Iridium (which has PowerPC processors) but it cannot go it alone. It will need a lot of specialized help and might run into regulatory problems if they try to deliver an end to end (content creation and delivery) solution.

applesauce007 17 Years · 1703 comments

I think Apple does plan to launch its own Satellite constellation.
The cost should not be in the billions because Iridium Communications owns the Iridium constellation and its market cap is under a billion dollars.

Apple is probably using Iridium now to support its Coherent Navigation systems which they purchased, but it is probably more cost effective to have its own constellation in the long term.

https://youtu.be/sCEuTSMmFeE

Apple can also launch more advanced dedicated satellites.  Cook would probably need Elon Musk's Space X to launch the satellites into orbit.

Time will tell.