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Actual testing on AMD Vega GPU destined for iMac Pro shows significant speed gains over Nvidia Titan Xp

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Hands on testing performed by a PC enthusiast site shows Vega 64 GPUs like those found in a build-to-order configuration of forthcoming iMac Pro beat the Nvidia Titan Xp card in actual workflows similar to those expected to be handled by the pro-level Mac — and the Vega 56 should also slightly edge the Nvidia card.

Testing performed by PC World used identical Windows 10 Pro PCs, both with identical CPUs, 32GB of DDR4 RAM and Dell's 8K display and a 1080p display. One PC included the newly released Radeon Vega Frontier edition PCI-E card and the other sported the GeForce Titan Xp card released in April.

The workflow generated was a "simulated workflow in a design firm" according to the testers. Evaluation showed the Vega card outperform the Titan Xp by 50 percent in SolidWorks, and 28 percent in competing 3D rendering package Catia.

In Maxon's Cinebench OpenGL benchmark, the test showed the Vega Frontier edition beating out the Titan Xp by 14 percent.

Testing wasn't limited to OpenGL workflows alone. Given that augmented reality and virtual reality developers have used the Unreal Engine for visualizations, the 8K display was swapped out for a pair of 3440x1440 panels, with testing performed on the lower resolution displays.

PC World claimed to not be able to tell the difference between the Titan Xp and the Radeon Vega Frontier PCI-E card in Direct X gaming and similar applications.

Further testing outside of AMD's labs performed by the testers showed essentially the same results, if not a bit higher.

The tests aren't of entirely similar cards. The Radeon Vega Frontier is optimized for commercial workflows, and the Titan Xp is a consumer-level card. However, the pricing is the same at $1,200.

Relevancy to the iMac Pro?

The test is actually very similar to the workflows that Apple would like to see its users focus on. Apple's software is tailored for Metal, and as such, OpenGL.

The iMac Pro won't have a PCI-E card slot. But, the Vega Frontier PCI-E card has identical hardware to the Vega Pro 64 chipset, but if the speeds are the same between the iMac and the lower priced air-cooled $1,200 PCI-E card isn't known.

The Vega Pro 56, in the "default" $4,999 iMac Pro configuration is roughly 75 percent of everything in the Pro 64 — about the same level as how the Nvidia Titan Xp performed.

For Mac users relying on Photoshop, there will be notable gains — as evidenced by the speed boost in the Titan Xp over the Nvidia 1080ti — they just won't be as pronounced as the gains from the AMD offering for Final Cut users.



23 Comments

gmgravytrain 8 Years · 884 comments

Woo-hoo, I can't wait for that iMac Pro to go on sale. In Apple terms, that has to be plenty of bang for the buck. If the Vega GPU comes anywhere's close to an NVIDIA 1080, I'll be more than satisfied. I honestly thought Apple had given up on building competitive desktops due to using cases with limited airflow and Apple's self-imposed low-energy requirements.

macxpress 16 Years · 5913 comments

Woo-hoo, I can't wait for that iMac Pro to go on sale. In Apple terms, that has to be plenty of bang for the buck. If the Vega GPU comes anywhere's close to an NVIDIA 1080, I'll be more than satisfied. I honestly thought Apple had given up on building competitive desktops due to using cases with limited airflow and Apple's self-imposed low-energy requirements.

I think maybe Apple was waiting for the technology to catch up to them rather than Apple build something around the current technology which at the time wasn't all that great in the end. 

Soli 9 Years · 9981 comments

I honestly thought Apple had given up on building competitive desktops due to using cases with limited airflow and Apple's self-imposed low-energy requirements.

I see this a lot. How many products have people said would never get updated again? No one should assume anything until it happens, including the current rumors that Apple will never release another wireless router. Hell, AI posted countless articles for a couple(?) years saying the Mac Mini was going away. Apple even sells iPods, and I doubt those profits could even keep the lights on—which is saying something considering how energy neutral they are at this point.

wigby 15 Years · 692 comments

Woo-hoo, I can't wait for that iMac Pro to go on sale. In Apple terms, that has to be plenty of bang for the buck. If the Vega GPU comes anywhere's close to an NVIDIA 1080, I'll be more than satisfied. I honestly thought Apple had given up on building competitive desktops due to using cases with limited airflow and Apple's self-imposed low-energy requirements.

The problem is that by the time the iMac pro ships, there will be faster cards on the market. Unfortunately the iMac pro will not be upgradeable with these newer, faster cards. So until Apple releases the new upgradable Mac pros next year, any pros using the iMac pro will be facing the same problems as they did with current Mac Pros.

Soli 9 Years · 9981 comments

wigby said:
Woo-hoo, I can't wait for that iMac Pro to go on sale. In Apple terms, that has to be plenty of bang for the buck. If the Vega GPU comes anywhere's close to an NVIDIA 1080, I'll be more than satisfied. I honestly thought Apple had given up on building competitive desktops due to using cases with limited airflow and Apple's self-imposed low-energy requirements.
The problem is that by the time the iMac pro ships, there will be faster cards on the market. Unfortunately the iMac pro will not be upgradeable with these newer, faster cards. So until Apple releases the new upgradable Mac pros next year, any pros using the iMac pro will be facing the same problems as they did with current Mac Pros.

This cards are soldered? I could've sworn that during the WWDC keynote we say the inside of the machine with socketed RAM and GPU.