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Spotify files to go public with 159 million active users, 71 million premium subscribers

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Popular music streaming service and Apple Music competitor Spotify announced plans to go public on Wednesday, though the company has already been trading on private markets at an estimated valuation of $23 billion.

According to its Form F-1, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Spotify is offering shares worth up to $1 billion on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker "SPOT," though the figure is merely a placeholder for calculating registration fees.

In its disclosure, the company offers a better look at potential public valuation, saying low and high sale prices per share in private trading ranged from $37.50 to $125.00 during the year ending on Dec. 31, 2017. Those numbers jumped to $90.00 and $132.50, respectively, in the period between Jan. 1 through Feb. 22, with the high end affording a valuation of more than $23 billion.

With the filing, Spotify revealed a detailed look at its finances, data that is typically obscured or glossed over completely in press conferences. For 2017, the company generated 4,090 million euros (about $5 billion), but posted a net loss of 1,235 million euros (about $1.5 billion).

As for Spotify's customers base, at the end of 2017 the company had 159 million monthly active users, 71 million premium subscribers, and a total of 40.3 billion streaming content hours.

"We believe that our number of Premium Subscribers is nearly double the size of our nearest competitor, Apple Music," Spotify said.

The statement lines up with claims from Apple, which earlier this month reported some 36 million users subscribe to Apple Music worldwide. However, record industry sources note Apple Music is adding subscribers at a rate of 5 percent in the U.S., compared to 2 percent for Spotify, suggesting the Cupertino tech giant might overtake Spotify in that country as soon as this summer.

Spotify continues to be a streaming powerhouse internationally, and is active in 61 countries. The company plans to expand on that footprint in the future, according to the SEC filing.

Today's IPO arrives nearly two months after reports claimed Spotify secretly filed to be listed on the NYSE in early January, shortly after it crossed the 70-million subscriber mark.



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EsquireCats 8 Years · 1268 comments

I quite like Spotify, they were early on the market and introduced a product at just the right time and technological mix. Although I'm no longer a subscriber (I prefer what Apple is doing with Apple Music)  I see the two services as indirect competitors due to their differing priorities. The below is just an straight forward evaluation for why this is going to be a very challenging time for Spotify.

Firstly: The lie is calling them "Premium Subscribers" - the reason why they don't turn a profit is because they're overloaded with promotional memberships. 

Ignoring ad revenue, which has been described as minimal, simple math shows that their average "premium" subscriber pays around $58 euros a year, this is less than HALF the cost of the full price subscription ($119.88 euro a year) - since we know that people do indeed pay full price, this reveals that a majority of their "Premium subscribers" are utilising a promotional discount of 50% or more, this is why Spotify have had recent spikes in paid subscribers, they've been using very cheap promo offers to artificially drive up membership. A tactic to make the company look more successful for their IPO listing, but it has been clearly to the detriment of the company's bottom line. (I.E. The false notion that you can convert every subscriber to a more expensive subscription.)

Now the next problem: original content is expensive and Spotify's competitors are all moving into this space. So we can see that Spotify are trying to raise funds from an IPO to pay for original content, but that just leaves investors carrying the bill, since they don't have the memberships to pay for this under their current business model and just to break even they'll need to freeze all costs and add another 21M members (but every member introduces further costs, so it's rather cyclical) - that's a real problem for investors because it raises the question: how are spotify to start turning a profit, when they can't extract a profit from the ones they already have? Bigger numbers lead to bigger losses.

fallenjt 13 Years · 4056 comments

I wouldn't invest in this stock. Too much competition from the big guys: Apple, Google, Amazon...Going against these guys will be kiss of death sooner or later.

macxpress 16 Years · 5913 comments

fallenjt said:
I wouldn't invest in this stock. Too much competition from the big guys: Apple, Google, Amazon...Going against these guys will be kiss of death sooner or later.

Yeah I don't see how Spotify has a sustained business model. 

radarthekat 12 Years · 3904 comments

fallenjt said:
I wouldn't invest in this stock. Too much competition from the big guys: Apple, Google, Amazon...Going against these guys will be kiss of death sooner or later.

Wanna see the future of Spotify?  Just go take a look at Pandora’s 5-year stock chart.  

jbdragon 10 Years · 2312 comments

fallenjt said:
I wouldn't invest in this stock. Too much competition from the big guys: Apple, Google, Amazon...Going against these guys will be kiss of death sooner or later.


Spotify has been around a long time. Every year they lose more and more money. Yes as they grow and get more people signed up, they lose even more money. So in 2017, they made 5 billions, but still posted a net loss of 1.5 billion. You know why they want to get into the stock market like this? Because they can't find any more suckers to give them a big pile of money to keep the doors open.

What is dragging them down,I'm sure is all the FREE users. 100 million free users!!!!! They're stuck now. They can't cutoff the free users, and their overall numbers would drop quite a bit. Making their value look much worse. Instead of saying they have 170 million active users, it turns into 70 million active users. That wouldn't look so good.

What's the future look like? Maybe 200 millions users, with 80 million or so paying, and losing 2 billion for the year!!! Spotify was founded in 2006. 11 years ago. Officially launched in 2008. How long can they keep losing money? The larger they get, the more they lose. They've been in the red every year that if at some point they can make it into the black in the future, they have a huge pile of bills to pay with high interest rates. Trying to be like a mini U.S. Government in spending is not going to work out for them.