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Samsung jockeying to supply NAND for next-gen iPhone as Apple looks to boost storage, report says

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Samsung is reportedly looking to regain its role as a major NAND flash supplier to Apple's iPhone lineup, a lucrative deal that could bear fruit with year's expected hardware refresh.

Sources familiar with Samsung's operations told The Korea Times on Monday that the company is in negotiations to supply NAND flash memory for Apple's next iPhone, and is already performing quality control component testing at its factory in Xian, China.

According to another source, the move is meant to capitalize on Apple's supposed plans to boost mid-tier iPhone storage capacities. Quizzically, the person cites cloud services — a feature usually attributed with freeing up onboard memory requirements — as "data-intensive" and the reason for the impending change. Samsung is reportedly hawking 64GB chips for what is currently Apple's mid-tier iPhone offering.

Running counter to the report, however, are comments from Apple SVP of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller, who recently defended relatively low-capacity 16GB iPhones.

"The belief is more and more as we use iCloud services for documents and our photos and videos and music that perhaps the most price-conscious customers are able to live in an environment where they don't need gobs of local storage because these services are lightening the load," Schiller said during an unofficial WWDC panel with Daring Fireball's John Gruber earlier this month.

The 16GB iPhone was a top-tier option in 2008, but later became an affordable entry-level alternative thanks to flash component commoditization. Storage allotments for top end iPhones grows at a fairly consistent rate, though base models have been stuck with 16GB since 2011's iPhone 4.

As one of Apple's main component suppliers, Samsung has long played a prominent role in iPhone production since the device first launched in 2007. The Korean tech conglomerate initially supplied NAND modules alongside Intel, Hynix, Micron and Toshiba, but more recently saw its position erode through supply chain diversification.

Signs of Samsung's phase out came in September 2012, when Apple chose not to incorporate the company's NAND chips in the first batch of iPhone 5 shipments. With current generation iPhone 6 and 6 Plus models, Samsung was pushed out completely, leaving the job to Toshiba, SK Hynix and SanDisk.

Rumors earlier this year claimed Samsung had eased its way back into Apple's good graces and could supply DRAM for the so-called "A9" system-on-chip design, which it will manufacture at advanced fabrication facilities.

Apple is widely expected to introduce two iPhone models this fall, dubbed "iPhone 6s" and iPhone 6s Plus," with an A9 SoC, potentially 2GB of RAM, Force Touch screen technology and other enhancements. A recent report claimed manufacturers started initial production of the handsets last week.



15 Comments

melgross 20 Years · 33622 comments

NAND storage in phones aren't SSDs. I haven't heard of an SSD interface being used. If someone has evidence I'm wrong, I'd like to know.

yuck9 13 Years · 111 comments

Find it funny that Apple goes to them for there NAND. 

Apple would be up a creek if Samsung told them to find another mfg.

adrayven 12 Years · 460 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuck9 
 

Find it funny that Apple goes to them for there NAND. 

Apple would be up a creek if Samsung told them to find another mfg.


Hardly. Samsung provides zero, zilch, nada, NAND to Apple right now.. they just leverage Samsung as a potential threat to the other three NAND suppliers to get better deals.. 

 

It's business, plain and simple.

macky the macky 15 Years · 4801 comments

[quote name="Yuck9" url="/t/186964/samsung-jockeying-to-supply-ssds-for-next-gen-iphone-as-apple-looks-to-boost-storage-report-says#post_2741975"]Find it funny that Apple goes to them for there NAND.  Apple would be up a creek if Samsung told them to find another mfg. [/quote] That's part of Apple's determination to diversify its sources... They were too dependent on Samsung, who is not Apple's friend. At the same time neither Apple or Samsung are likely to strip all ties just to spite the other.

konqerror 12 Years · 685 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by melgross 

NAND storage in phones aren't SSDs. I haven't heard of an SSD interface being used. If someone has evidence I'm wrong, I'd like to know.

 

You have to define what an SSD is. Any flash storage requires NAND flash, and a controller. Android phones usually use eMMC. The controller is in the flash package and looks to the CPU as a SD card. Apple buys raw NAND and has their own controller built into the SoC. Apple does some of the tasks the controller usually does in software on the CPU.