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EU antitrust chief: 'don't hold your breath' for results of Apple-Ireland tax audit

The European Commission is unlikely to rule on the legality of Apple's tax arrangement with the Irish government any time in the near future, the EU's lead antitrust watchdog said on Monday.

"Don't hold your breath," European Commissioner for Competition Margrethe Vestager said when asked about the status of the investigation, according to Bloomberg. "I'm just warning you."

The European Commission has been looking Apple's Irish tax arrangements for more than a year, first releasing a preliminary finding in late 2014. The Commission is investigating whether the deal, first struck by Apple in 1991 and refreshed in 2007, amounts to illegal state aid.

Apple is one of a number of companies — mostly U.S. firms — to have been swept up in a clampdown on such tax agreements around Europe. If found to be in violation of EU law, Apple may be forced to pay as much as $8 billion in back taxes.

The final ruling on Apple's case has already been delayed multiple times, possibly indicating the complexity of auditing a company Apple's size.

Vestager refused to give a new deadline, saying instead that the commission would "wait for the job being done thoroughly and with the quality that we want it to be done with."

"That is what decides the timeline," she added.



15 Comments

leavingthebigg 11 Years · 1291 comments

Vestager refused to give a new deadline, saying instead that the commission would "wait for the job being done thoroughly and with the quality that we want it to be done with."

"That is what decides the timeline," she added.

Elections may also be driving the timeline. By holding off a decision, some politicians will not feel pre-election heat for being pro/anti Apple on this matter. After being elected into office, the politicians can openly express their leanings without too much fear of being voted out of office for a few years. 

latifbp 9 Years · 544 comments

What is their to audit? It's now common knowledge that Apple had a low tax rate as companies have developed time and time again throughout history.  It's either "State Aid" as they are trying to spin it or it is not. Are their new "Laws" they are trying to sell to the public legitimate or are they not? Yet the EU can't even answer that. It's just another sign that this whole circus is a bunch of bs. 

singularity 11 Years · 1323 comments

latifbp said:
What is their to audit? It's now common knowledge that Apple had a low tax rate as companies have developed time and time again throughout history.  It's either "State Aid" as they are trying to spin it or it is not. Are their new "Laws" they are trying to sell to the public legitimate or are they not? Yet the EU can't even answer that. It's just another sign that this whole circus is a bunch of bs. 

Not new laws. They have been in place since 1958 and updated in 1992.
Considering the complexity of the whole EU tax rules, cross country etc I have seen liability to Apple from a few hundred million to 9 billion being reported.

cnocbui 17 Years · 3612 comments

Vestager refused to give a new deadline, saying instead that the commission would "wait for the job being done thoroughly and with the quality that we want it to be done with."

"That is what decides the timeline," she added.

Elections may also be driving the timeline. By holding off a decision, some politicians will not feel pre-election heat for being pro/anti Apple on this matter. After being elected into office, the politicians can openly express their leanings without too much fear of being voted out of office for a few years. 

Which elections and what is the timeline?

There seems to be a number of people who are projecting, based on their perception of  their own national political system and are assuming it has relevance to the way the EU and the Commission operate.

latifbp 9 Years · 544 comments

latifbp said:
What is their to audit? It's now common knowledge that Apple had a low tax rate as companies have developed time and time again throughout history.  It's either "State Aid" as they are trying to spin it or it is not. Are their new "Laws" they are trying to sell to the public legitimate or are they not? Yet the EU can't even answer that. It's just another sign that this whole circus is a bunch of bs. 
Not new laws. They have been in place since 1958 and updated in 1992.
Considering the complexity of the whole EU tax rules, cross country etc I have seen liability to Apple from a few hundred million to 9 billion being reported.

Then why does it take them 10 years to enforce them and over a year to figure out what we have so clearly been discussing here for months? I call bs, and anticipate your old, singular, worn out but repetitively recycled argument.