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As a standalone company, Apple's services business could be worth as much as $260B, Piper Jaffray says

Investment firm Piper Jaffray continues to believe that Apple's services business is vastly undervalued by Wall Street, as the company reiterated this week that services should be a larger focus for investors.

Analyst Gene Munster issued a note to investors on Wednesday noting that shares of Apple's chief rival, Google, trade at about about 19 times the company's projected calendar year 2017 operating revenue, excluding net cash.

Applying that same metric to Apple would imply a valuation of around $264 billion for the iPhone maker's services business, Munster said. That compares to a current market capitalization of around $590 billion with $160 billion in cash.

Munster said using Google as a comparison seems to him to be the most fair way to judge Apple's services business. But he acknowledged that the tight integration between Apple's hardware and software makes it a difficult comparison.

Even if investors were to take a "safe" approach and halve Google's projected calendar year 2017 multiple to 10 times, that would still place Apple's services business as being worth $139 billion, he said.

Munster noted earlier this week that Apple's services business grew profit margins by 60 percent in 2015. He expects that growth to continue as the company leverages its huge installed user base.

Apple itself has been placing a greater focus on its services business in recent earnings reports. And Munster believes that Apple's continued focus on it will resonate with investors —  eventually.

"Apple's current valuation seems to understate the value being created by the Services business, and we expect the awareness of this to grow over the next several quarters as Apple continues to give more detail on the segment," he said.

Piper Jaffray has maintained its "overweight" rating for shares of AAPL, with a price target of $172.



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cropr 12 Years · 1143 comments

That a lot of BS.
The main reason why the Apple service business is successful, is the iPhone (and to a lesser extend the other devices).  And for the record, there is nothing wrong with that.

Without the iPhone ecosystem, the Apple service business would have a lot of difficulties to differentiate itself from the competition.
Nobody would consider using iCloud: it has less functionality and is more expensive than Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, ....  If the service business could stand on its own, there should millions of Android only users having a subscription for Apple Music.

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brucemc 15 Years · 1541 comments

The point isn't that the business could exist on its own, but rather to try and determine a value for it.

Given the amount of money that Apple returns to their shareholders each year, and with the cash generated each year, Apple's stock price is basically valued at the company not existing in 10 years (if you take the view that the current stock price is meant to reflect all expected future earnings).

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adrayven 13 Years · 460 comments

cropr said:
That a lot of BS.
The main reason why the Apple service business is successful, is the iPhone (and to a lesser extend the other devices).  And for the record, there is nothing wrong with that.

Without the iPhone ecosystem, the Apple service business would have a lot of difficulties to differentiate itself from the competition.
Nobody would consider using iCloud: it has less functionality and is more expensive than Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, ....  If the service business could stand on its own, there should millions of Android only users having a subscription for Apple Music.

Bad examples. Dropbox, Google Drive, One Drive do not include Music/Movie/TV streaming and email, which Apple's services business does. Like the author said, Google DOES provide those other services, so it's a better fit. Which is where most of that money comes from.

iCloud services are NOT just a file sync services.. as you seem to think are.

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rob53 14 Years · 3318 comments

cropr said:
That a lot of BS.
The main reason why the Apple service business is successful, is the iPhone (and to a lesser extend the other devices).  And for the record, there is nothing wrong with that.

Without the iPhone ecosystem, the Apple service business would have a lot of difficulties to differentiate itself from the competition.
Nobody would consider using iCloud: it has less functionality and is more expensive than Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, ....  If the service business could stand on its own, there should millions of Android only users having a subscription for Apple Music.

Sorry, but there's more to a service than just its cost and apparent lack of functionality. Google Drive files are scanned for content per Google's EULA agreement. OneDrive is owned by Microsoft, which is not somewhere I will ever go. I've tried DropBox and like it but I don't share files with a lot of other people so I really don't need this functionality. I do use iCloud Drive to share files between my Apple devices, which works fine for me. I agree that Apple's service business is based mainly on serving iOS devices but there's nothing wrong with this. It also services Macs, AppleTV and Apple Watch and will service anything else they come up with. 

As for AAPL's rating, the stock market is such a bunch of BS it doesn't make sense. There's no way Google should have such a high P/E (in the 30's) while AAPL's is only around 11. Google doesn't produce anything, it only provides targeted advertising services, which almost everyone hates.

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ceek74 13 Years · 324 comments

Gene. Munster. Enough said.

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