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Masimo open to an Apple Watch settlement, if Apple would only call

Apple Watch with blood oxygen sensing functions

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Masimo CEO Joe Kiani claims the medical device company is open to a settlement discussion over the upcoming U.S. Apple Watch sales ban, but Apple allegedly hasn't made any moves to do so.

In the face of a sales ban in the United States from an ITC patent infringement dispute that is due to start on Christmas Day, Apple has already taken steps to prepare for it. However, legal opponent Masimo may have hinted at a way out.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Massimo CEO Joe Kiani said the "short answer is yes" when asked if a settlement was a possibility between the two companies. He added that Masimo would certainly "work with them to improve their product" as well.

However, while Kiani didn't reveal a potential amount that would settle proceedings, he also claims Apple hasn't taken steps to even discuss a settlement. "They haven't called," said the CEO. "It takes two to tango."

A settlement would potentially draw to an end the ongoing legal battle between the two companies, as well as halt the inbound sales ban of newer Apple Watch models that infringe Masimo's patents. At this time, it seems that going down that route is not a possibility for Apple.

The ban will officially start on Christmas day, but Apple is ceasing online sales of the Apple Watch Ultra 2 and the Apple Watch Series 9 from December 21, and in Apple Stores from December 24.

For Apple, there is a small chance of a reprieve, as the White House can elect to veto the ban and stop it from happening. Kiani refers to Apple's preparation plans as a "stunt" to try and pressure the Biden Administration into pulling the ban.

Continued theft allegations

"These guys have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar," Kiani continued, speaking about Apple's alleged use of the company's patents for blood oxygen monitoring.

"This is not an accidental infringement — This is a deliberate taking of our intellectual property," he added. "I am glad the world can now see we are the true innovators and creators of these technologies."

Kiani goes on to claim that Apple hired more than 20 engineers from the company, sometimes by doubling their salary, in order to have them work on similar technologies for use in the Apple Watch.

"Apple could be an example of how to do things right and do things well, and they didn't have to steal our people. We could have worked with them," Kiani asserted.

On the topic of the supposed attempt by Apple to thwart the ban with a software update, Kiani doubted it would work. "It shouldn't, because our patents are not about the software. They are about the hardware with the software."

Kiani added that the ITC import ban could've been avoided if the Apple Watch and its components were manufactured in the United States. He then pointed out that Masimo's technology is made within the country.



46 Comments

macbootx 72 comments · 10 Years

Looking at the line of sensor related products they sell, Masimo certainly doesn’t appear to be a patent troll. Hopefully Apple will negotiate a fair deal. 

ronn 688 comments · 20 Years

Kiani goes on to claim that Apple hired more than 20 engineers from the company, sometimes by doubling their salary, in order to have them work on similar technologies for use in the Apple Watch.

"Apple could be an example of how to do things right and do things well, and they didn't have to steal our people. We could have worked with them," Kiani asserted.Apple didn't "steal" people" as workers are free to work for whomever they please. Apple learned the hard way after getting smacked down for their "no poaching" deal with Google and others under Jobs.

phaseangle 37 comments · 3 Years

Yes but look at the patient, more than three leds?, beveled edge?

tht 5654 comments · 23 Years

macbootx said:
Looking at the line of sensor related products they sell, Masimo certainly doesn’t appear to be a patent troll. Hopefully Apple will negotiate a fair deal. 

They are a patent troll. It's not mutually exclusive to have products while also being a patent troll. It's the way the game is often played as this is the way the USA gov't wants it, so companies play the game. Some are aggressive, some are not. It ebbs and flows.

The ITC "determined" that Apple violated 2 claims of 1 patent granted 2021, which was the year after Apple introduced the Apple Watch 6. Those claims should be invalidated and I definitely can see why Apple isn't going to settle, for now. But play the game they must.