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ITC reviewing four patents from Apple win over HTC

The U.S. International Trade Commission announced this week its intention to review a judge's ruling that Taiwanese handset maker HTC had infringed on two of Apple's patents, with a final decision scheduled to arrive by Dec. 6.

The decision comes after both Apple and HTC petitioned for a review of the July 15 ruling from an administrative law judge. HTC asked the commission to review the two patents that it had been found to have violated, while Apple requested that two other patents be reexamined.

The ITC agreed to review 16 issues across the four patents in question, requesting additional information on five questions from both companies. Though the review could put HTC at greater risk, since the final result could side even more with Apple, patent expert Florian Mueller believes the likelihood of that happening is less than 20 percent.

Mueller went on to state his position that HTC stands a 50 percent chance of overturning the infringement ruling on U.S. Patent No. 6,343,263, entitled "Real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data." He also reiterated that a successful defense from Apple would be a "huge win" because workarounds for the '263 patent would require significant architectural changes to Google's Android.

For its part, Apple has said in its court filings that Google executive Andy Rubin worked under the inventors of the '263 patent during his time as a low-level engineer at Apple and may have drawn inspiration for the Android framework then.

Mueller also went on to say that Apple has a 75 percent chance of winning the final decision on the second patent HTC has been found to have infringed. But, according to him, U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647, entitled "System and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data," is mostly a "convenience" feature and could be removed from Android, though it would slightly degrade the user experience.

The commission expects to reach a final decision by Dec. 6, at which point the federal agency could issue an import ban on infringing HTC devices. Bloomberg reports that court filings show HTC is fighting any possible ban by arguing that its smartphones have special features for the hearing impaired and "enhanced 911" location services that contribute to public safety.

“The exclusion of HTC accused devices from the U.S. market would not only eliminate the most popular brand of smartphones using Android, the fastest-growing mobile operating system, but would also impact the public health, safety, and welfare concerns of individual U.S. consumers,” the company said, noting that its devices comprise 36 percent of Android smartphones in the U.S.

But, Apple has responded with its own filing asserting that there are plenty of other smartphones on the market and HTC can replace its Android handsets with smartphones running Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system.

Analysts have suggested that Apple's victory in its ITC suit against HTC could set a high royalty precedent for Android devices. Some Chinese Android vendors are said to be considering dropping the platform because of fears of infringement liability.

Meanwhile, HTC Chief Executive Peter Chou has sought to assuage investors' fears by calling the lawsuit a "distraction," expressing confidence that the company would be unaffected by the suit.



102 Comments

absolutedesignz 13 Years · 1930 comments

though I'm sure some here will disagree...the second patent (that Apple stands an apparent 75% chance on) is utterly ridiculous.

I don't really know what the first patent means so I won't pretend to.

bonklers 15 Years · 54 comments

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz

I don't really know what the first patent means so I won't pretend to.

only a handful of people fully understand all the patents that make an OS. Its ridiculous to believe that any judge has the understanding needed to judge in such a dispute.

Patents should expire at the speed at which an industry moves. That way 99% of all these tech legal disputes involving apple would disappear!

dickprinter 16 Years · 1058 comments

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider For its part, Apple has said in its court filings that Google executive Andy Rubin worked under the inventors of the '263 patent during his time as a low-level engineer at Apple and may have drawn inspiration for the Android framework then.

I hope they are able to make the "Andy Rubin inspiration" connection with that patent. There's nothing sweeter than nailing an ex-employee for stealing such an important aspect of a device and willfully using that "inspired" idea to compete against his old employer. I'm all for competition but I hope Android gets kicked down a few notches by being forced to go back to the drawing board to rework the architecture for knowingly infringing on the patent and going ahead with it anyway. Just like Oracle and Java. Cocky and ballsy.

absolutedesignz 13 Years · 1930 comments

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonklers

only a handful of people fully understand all the patents that make an OS. Its ridiculous to believe that any judge has the understanding needed to judge in such a dispute.

Patents should expire at the speed at which an industry moves. That way 99% of all these tech legal disputes involving apple would disappear!

and patent trolls would be non-existent.

absolutedesignz 13 Years · 1930 comments

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Originally Posted by Dickprinter

I hope they are able to make the "Andy Rubin inspiration" connection with that patent. There's nothing sweeter than nailing an ex-employee for stealing such an important aspect of a device and willfully using that "inspired" idea to compete against his old employer. I'm all for competition but I hope Android gets kicked down a few notches by being forced to go back to the drawing board to rework the architecture for knowingly infringing on the patent and going ahead with it anyway. Just like Oracle and Java. Cocky and ballsy.

question...do you actually even know what the patent in question is or are you being guided by blind hatred of anything not Apple?

---------hmmm, from what I can gather about U.S. Patent No. 6,343,263 pretty much EVERY modern smartphone uses it and it was likely in use in smartphones before Apple created the iPhone. 17 years ago (1994, when the patent was filed) the mobile tech industry was insanely young and any judge likely ignorant of the implications of this.