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An iPhone with in-screen Touch ID could ship as soon as 2021

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Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo isn't limiting himself to rumors about 2019 and 2020 phones, and has published one now predicting that the 2021 iPhone will have both Face ID and Touch ID.

In a note published on early Monday morning, Ming-Chi Kuo predicts that the 2021 iPhone may adopt fingerprint on display (FOD) technology in 2021. The expected supplier of the technology is Qualcomm, using its ultrasonic technology, rather than others that have been developed over the last year or so.

Kuo believes that "four critical technical issues" will improve in the next 12 to 18 months. Limiting factors cited are module thickness, sensing area, power consumption, and lamination yield rate.

Apple has filed patents on the technology, which Kuo believes proves Apple's continued interest in implementing under-screen solutions. In April, Apple was granted a patent to turn the entire display into a fingerprint reader by taking advantage of acoustic imaging — exactly what Kuo has predicted here.

A slightly different implementation is apparently also in the works, using a series of pinholes in the display panel, which would allow for an optical sensor. It is less likely that this method will be used, according to Kuo, however.

Apple maintains that the chance of another face matching a stored user is about one in a million. Identical twins have on occasion fooled the system, and it is possible to train the system with a failed Face ID unlock and a PIN entry to identify two people that look substantively alike. Touch ID has a one in 50,000 unlock with somebody else's fingerprint.



28 Comments

crowley 15 Years · 10431 comments

I wonder if the user will have control over which authentication to use, or even to require both.  I think I'd got the Touch Id route, I find myself having to pick up or adjust the phone to get the angle right a lot, and even then it quite often fails and I need to fall back to PIN entry.  Touch Id used to fail occasionally, but I remember it a lot less, and the only major user-facing downside was being unable to use it with gloves.

Maybe Touch Id in the summer, and Face Id in the winter?

badmonk 11 Years · 1336 comments

crowley said:
I wonder if the user will have control over which authentication to use, or even to require both.  I think I'd got the Touch Id route, I find myself having to pick up or adjust the phone to get the angle right a lot, and even then it quite often fails and I need to fall back to PIN entry.  Touch Id used to fail occasionally, but I remember it a lot less, and the only major user-facing downside was being unable to use it with gloves.

Maybe Touch Id in the summer, and Face Id in the winter?

great point!  i for one prefer FaceID because it is better when doing chores around the home and the under the screen US method sounds too complex and another battery sap but being able to switch between the two has some benefit during different activities and seasons.

urahara 13 Years · 733 comments

crowley said:
I wonder if the user will have control over which authentication to use, or even to require both.  I think I'd got the Touch Id route, I find myself having to pick up or adjust the phone to get the angle right a lot, and even then it quite often fails and I need to fall back to PIN entry.  Touch Id used to fail occasionally, but I remember it a lot less, and the only major user-facing downside was being unable to use it with gloves.

Maybe Touch Id in the summer, and Face Id in the winter?

It might be really so that you had less problems with TouchID than with FaceID. Or your brain might have remembered more positive things; and the feeling of frustartion with TouchID in certain cases has weared off. True, if they could introduce the TouchID to work parallel with FaceID then it'd win-win.

wood1208 10 Years · 2938 comments

Face ID is superior than touch id but takes part of the screen notch to hide sensors. If whole screen is touchid than why bother having both methods present ? Don't see benefits keeping faceid.

avon b7 20 Years · 8046 comments

In that timeframe I think we could see solutions like this but along the edge of the phone.

There are rumours of so called 'waterfall displays' being released in the next two months. The question remains on what will happen to physical buttons on the sides as a result but perhaps just holding the phone might be enough to unlock it safely at some point in the next few years.