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Microsoft's gaming CEO doesn't think iOS is open enough for Xbox gaming

Microsoft is not bringing Xcloud natively to iPhone

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In a new interview, Microsoft's Phil Spencer discusses how Microsoft is bringing its Xbox titles to new platforms — but he doesn't think they'll find a home on iOS.

Microsoft is expanding beyond its Xbox gaming console and Windows by releasing video games to Nintendo's Switch and Sony's PS5. It makes sense, then, that if the company is trying to get its games into as many hands as possible, it would bring those games natively to the iPhone.

But, that's not the case — at least not yet.

Phil Spencer, Microsoft Gaming's CEO, said in a new interview with The Verge that Apple hasn't given the company an effective way to monetize Xbox games on its platform.

"There's not room for us to monetize Xbox Cloud Gaming on iOS. I think the proposal that Apple put forward — and I thought Sarah Bond's comments on this were right on — doesn't go far enough to open up," he says about the UK Digital Markets Act concessions.

Of course, he doesn't comment on the fact that — as of iOS 17.4 — Apple now allows single app streaming. Apple's change to what's permitted for streaming game services will allow Microsoft to make a "reader" app that would impose no fees beyond what the user purchases in-app.

Ultimately, what Microsoft wants is its own app store, everywhere. Spencer believes that mobile gaming should work more like those on desktop.

"We will continue to work with regulators, and Apple and Google, to create a space for alternative storefronts. I'm a big fan of how Windows works, and you've got a Microsoft Store on Windows, you've got Steam, you've got the Epic Games Store, you've got GOG," he tells the interviewer.

Microsoft has its own walled garden in the Xbox marketplace. It charges a similar fee to game developers that Apple's App Store does.

The company has repeatedly said this is okay because Xbox hardware is sold as a loss-leader. However, there is no provision in US law requiring App Stores to only charge fees if the hardware is subsidized by an app store on the platform.

"You have alternatives, and I think alternative ways for people to buy things creates goodness for consumers and creators," Spencer added.

While Apple doesn't allow alternative marketplaces in the US, the company will allow them soon the European Union with caveats. The move was made to comply with the EU's Digital Markets Act.



21 Comments

rob53 14 Years · 3319 comments

“Microsoft has its own walled garden.” Interesting comment. Is anyone looking into this? Probably not. All Microsoft wants is money, they haven’t come up with anything new in years, actually ever. 

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ihatescreennames 20 Years · 1980 comments

"We will continue to work with regulators, and Apple and Google, to create a space for alternative storefronts. I'm a big fan of how Windows works, and you've got a Microsoft Store on Windows, you've got Steam, you've got the Epic Games Store, you've got GOG," he tells the interviewer. 


Microsoft has its own walled garden in the Xbox marketplace. It charges a similar fee to game developers that Apple's App Store does.

If he’s such a big fan of the way Windows works why doesn’t he change Xbox to reflect that? I imagine Steam and Epic would love to have their own stores on Xbox. Isn’t he the guy to make that happen?

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blastdoor 16 Years · 3621 comments

"We will continue to work with regulators, and Apple and Google, to create a space for alternative storefronts. I'm a big fan of how Windows works, and you've got a Microsoft Store on Windows, you've got Steam, you've got the Epic Games Store, you've got GOG," he tells the interviewer. 


Microsoft has its own walled garden in the Xbox marketplace. It charges a similar fee to game developers that Apple's App Store does.

If he’s such a big fan of the way Windows works why doesn’t he change Xbox to reflect that? I imagine Steam and Epic would love to have their own stores on Xbox. Isn’t he the guy to make that happen?

I wonder if Microsoft is planning to get out of the Xbox hardware business entirely and he just forgot that they hadn't made that announcement yet. If not, then his comment is blatantly hypocritical. 

In all seriousness, the Xbox has always been a questionable business decision by Microsoft. I think they should have focused purely on making Windows PC gaming the absolute best it can be. I think part of the reason that PlayStation consistently beats Xbox is that Microsoft has split their attention between Xbox and Windows gaming to the detriment of both. 

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Marvin 19 Years · 15363 comments

blastdoor said:

"We will continue to work with regulators, and Apple and Google, to create a space for alternative storefronts. I'm a big fan of how Windows works, and you've got a Microsoft Store on Windows, you've got Steam, you've got the Epic Games Store, you've got GOG," he tells the interviewer. 


Microsoft has its own walled garden in the Xbox marketplace. It charges a similar fee to game developers that Apple's App Store does.

If he’s such a big fan of the way Windows works why doesn’t he change Xbox to reflect that? I imagine Steam and Epic would love to have their own stores on Xbox. Isn’t he the guy to make that happen?
I wonder if Microsoft is planning to get out of the Xbox hardware business entirely and he just forgot that they hadn't made that announcement yet. If not, then his comment is blatantly hypocritical. 

They said they will continue to make Xbox hardware and their next hardware upgrade would be the biggest generational jump:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/16/24074729/microsoft-phil-spencer-xbox-everywhere-memo
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-next-gen-console-confirmed-business-update

They and Epic are hypocrites. They want every other platform open so they can leverage them to boost engagement with their own closed platforms.

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macxpress 17 Years · 5918 comments

Microsoft's Gaming CEO is also a big hypocrite! 

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