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Apple reportedly on track for late 2025 home hub launch

A mockup of what an Apple home hub device could look like.


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A leaker with an excellent track record says that Apple is still on track to release its first dedicated smart home controller with an iPad-like screen in the second half of 2025. Here's what to expect from the home hub.

Mark Gurman's Power On newsletter on Sunday is the latest to chime in on a timeline for Apple's Home Hub. According to the newsletter, the new device, still expected in 2025, will be "the first step toward a bigger role in the smart home" and Apple's "most significant release of the year."

Previous reports from long-time Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo have suggested the home hub will enter mass production later this year. It is thought to include a high-quality speaker and camera for FaceTime calls, and could be sold as either wall-mountable or with a standalone base as desired.

Apple is thought to also be bringing out supplementary smart home accessories, such as dedicated indoor security cameras and a doorbell that can use Face ID, also according to the newsletter.

Rumors suggest previously said that the device will sport an A18 chip and at least 8GB of RAM, so as to run Apple Intelligence. The expected built-in camera and mic may also double as a security camera itself.

The device is expected to unify the company's push for a much-improved Siri home assistant, use of the Thread and Matter standards for control of smart home devices, and its existing Home software interface. It remains to be seen if Apple will include any iCloud storage offers for security footage.

Rounding up the rumors

The purpose of the device would be to leverage an improved Siri and on-screen widgets to act as a master control for smart home devices, similar to how the Home app on other Apple devices works now.

That said, the home hub is expected to work with nearly any third-party device that supports the Matter and Thread secure communication standards. It would leverage Apple Intelligence and Siri for automation and control, and possibly run on a dedicated "homeOS" with a focus on widget-based controls for individual devices.

Matter is a key standard that will allow the home hub to work with third-party devices. Matter is a key standard that will allow the home hub to work with third-party devices.

It's unclear if the new device will use the HomePod branding as suggested by earlier rumors, or move to an entirely new name, such as "Apple HomeHub." It would be Apple's entry into a market currently dominated by Amazon's Echo Show and Google's Nest Hub.

Commands could also be given to the device using Siri on existing Apple devices, from the iPhone to the HomePod, so that users who are away or in another part of the home could still control the hub. Apple is also rumored to be launching a new lineup of HomePod minis in the second half of 2025.

A price target for the home hub has not yet been suggested in the various rumors, apart from claims that the base unit would be significantly less expensive than an iPad.



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mpantone 19 Years · 2280 comments

This contradicts an earlier rumor speculating a Home controller in the first half of 2025. 

We have been over this before. If Apple is going to launch this platform, they need to have the requisite software infrastructure in place. Not just HomePod's OS but also iOS, iPadOS, macOS, tvOS, etc. It would be well documented with multiple APIs so third party developers would be able to access the environment.

We know that infrastructure does not exist at this point. Thus, if Apple unveils this infrastructure at WWDC 2025 in June, then it should considered an upcoming release. But until Apple unveils this software backbone, it's just pure speculation. And not just one paragraph in a press release. It would be several APIs, lots of documentation, source code examples, WWDC breakout sessions, etc. And if indeed it's some sort of hardware device, most likely there would be engineering samples/dev kits loaned out to the bigger players for development purposes (under NDA until Apple launches the thing).

Apple cannot just release some sort of Home Control controller or touchpad without adequate and robust software support.

Apple doesn't just upload a press release to PRNewswire and it becomes a done deal.

We will know in June if this is going to happen. If they announce nothing, you can mothball this rumor for another 17 months (until June 2026). It's rather silly to speculate on this now since there is little indication of any meaningful development.

Personally, I think Apple has more than it can handle with Apple Intelligence right now based on the way they have metered out new features. Any sort of home control integration project is likely several years away. Hell, Apple can't even offer synchronized Apple Intelligence feature parity on both iPhones and Macs right now (e.g., Genmoji on Sequoia is still Work In Progress).

It's important to stress that Apple can't just release it and say "Come and get it." It's not 2017 anymore when the HomePod was announced. Today's consumers have far higher expectations on what home control systems should do in 2025. These controllers must support a much larger variety of devices from various manufacturers today than 7-8 years ago. It's not just some smart speaker controlling your Nest thermostat or telling Alexa to add toothpaste to your next Amazon order.

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eightzero 15 Years · 3161 comments

The only thing...ONLY thing...that would interest me in this product would be if it comes with an ethernet jack and functions as an Airport. All the better if it offers a VPN. I'm guessing it won't, so it is not for me. YMMV, and if you want one, help yourself. I've no use for such a thing.

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AppleZulu 9 Years · 2270 comments

mpantone said:
This contradicts an earlier rumor speculating a Home controller in the first half of 2025. 

We have been over this before. If Apple is going to launch this platform, they need to have the requisite software infrastructure in place. Not just HomePod's OS but also iOS, iPadOS, macOS, tvOS, etc. It would be well documented with multiple APIs so third party developers would be able to access the environment.

We know that infrastructure does not exist at this point. Thus, if Apple unveils this infrastructure at WWDC 2025 in June, then it should considered an upcoming release. But until Apple unveils this software backbone, it's just pure speculation. And not just one paragraph in a press release. It would be several APIs, lots of documentation, source code examples, WWDC breakout sessions, etc. And if indeed it's some sort of hardware device, most likely there would be engineering samples/dev kits loaned out to the bigger players for development purposes (under NDA until Apple launches the thing).

Apple cannot just release some sort of Home Control controller or touchpad without adequate and robust software support.

Apple doesn't just upload a press release to PRNewswire and it becomes a done deal.

We will know in June if this is going to happen. If they announce nothing, you can mothball this rumor for another 17 months (until June 2026). It's rather silly to speculate on this now since there is little indication of any meaningful development.

Personally, I think Apple has more than it can handle with Apple Intelligence right now based on the way they have metered out new features. Any sort of home control integration project is likely several years away. Hell, Apple can't even offer synchronized Apple Intelligence feature parity on both iPhones and Macs right now (e.g., Genmoji on Sequoia is still Work In Progress).

It's important to stress that Apple can't just release it and say "Come and get it." It's not 2017 anymore when the HomePod was announced. Today's consumers have far higher expectations on what home control devices should do in 2025. These controllers must support a much larger variety of devices from various manufacturers today than 7-8 years ago.

They don’t need all that to launch a hub. AppleTVs and HomePods already are hubs. All a separate new hub needs at launch is the horsepower to handle onboard Apple Intelligence functionality. With that alone, it will handle and thus enable AI and the AI-powered Siri for all the AppleTVs and HomePods on the same network.  

Adding comparatively inexpensive terminal screens for the hub that can attach to wall mounts and stationary stands can present a version of the Home app that’s at the ready in multiple places in the home, no matter where you’ve left your iPhone. All that would be an excellent starting point and wouldn’t require at start-up any of the APIs and groundwork that you’ve described. 

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mpantone 19 Years · 2280 comments

AppleZulu said:
mpantone said:
This contradicts an earlier rumor speculating a Home controller in the first half of 2025. 

We have been over this before. If Apple is going to launch this platform, they need to have the requisite software infrastructure in place. Not just HomePod's OS but also iOS, iPadOS, macOS, tvOS, etc. It would be well documented with multiple APIs so third party developers would be able to access the environment.

We know that infrastructure does not exist at this point. Thus, if Apple unveils this infrastructure at WWDC 2025 in June, then it should considered an upcoming release. But until Apple unveils this software backbone, it's just pure speculation. And not just one paragraph in a press release. It would be several APIs, lots of documentation, source code examples, WWDC breakout sessions, etc. And if indeed it's some sort of hardware device, most likely there would be engineering samples/dev kits loaned out to the bigger players for development purposes (under NDA until Apple launches the thing).

Apple cannot just release some sort of Home Control controller or touchpad without adequate and robust software support.

Apple doesn't just upload a press release to PRNewswire and it becomes a done deal.

We will know in June if this is going to happen. If they announce nothing, you can mothball this rumor for another 17 months (until June 2026). It's rather silly to speculate on this now since there is little indication of any meaningful development.

Personally, I think Apple has more than it can handle with Apple Intelligence right now based on the way they have metered out new features. Any sort of home control integration project is likely several years away. Hell, Apple can't even offer synchronized Apple Intelligence feature parity on both iPhones and Macs right now (e.g., Genmoji on Sequoia is still Work In Progress).

It's important to stress that Apple can't just release it and say "Come and get it." It's not 2017 anymore when the HomePod was announced. Today's consumers have far higher expectations on what home control devices should do in 2025. These controllers must support a much larger variety of devices from various manufacturers today than 7-8 years ago.
They don’t need all that to launch a hub. AppleTVs and HomePods already are hubs. All a separate new hub needs at launch is the horsepower to handle onboard Apple Intelligence functionality. With that alone, it will handle and thus enable AI and the AI-powered Siri for all the AppleTVs and HomePods on the same network.  
Adding comparatively inexpensive terminal screens for the hub that can attach to wall mounts and stationary stands can present a version of the Home app that’s at the ready in multiple places in the home, no matter where you’ve left your iPhone. All that would be an excellent starting point and wouldn’t require at start-up any of the APIs and groundwork that you’ve described. 

I'm very skeptical about this. If your iPhone/Mac/iPad have the horsepower to handle Apple Intelligence, why rely on Home Control on a dedicated device that might mostly be idle 21-22 hours a day? I should be able to tell the iPad in my lap or the Watch on my wrist to do whatever I need to happen rather than stand up and walk to some touchscreen panel (which is like a fixed iPad) to do what the devices on my person can already do.

Hell, I work from home and my Mac mini M2 Pro rarely breaks a sweat. My guess is that 98% of the time it is under 5% CPU utilization. And I'm composing this response on my Mac.

Actually speaking to a Watch and have it relay instructions to your phone makes the most sense since your phone is the device in your house that is most likely going to be connected to the network (home network, cellular data, broadband Internet, whatever).

Again, this new proposed home controller device needs to differentiate itself and do something (more like 2-3 things) better than your phone can.

I can see the argument for putting an Apple Intelligence-capable SoC in an AppleTV box for this purpose. I'm having a harder time seeing any value-add from a dedicated device at this time, especially one that forces you to get out of your chair. Consumers in 2025 are lazy, they don't want to stand up and walk to the thermostat. Standing up and walking to some Home Control touchscreen panel is basically the same effort.

Hell, in some cases, the super fancy touchscreen device might be more intrusive and inconvenient. We're already seeing that in auto manufacturers put some vehicle functions back on dedicated controls because it's far more distracting having to go through a bunch of menus just to adjust the cabin temperature. So manufacturers are putting big dumb dials back in cars that can be operated with gloves/mittens safely in the dark.

My prediction is that in a few years, there will be a backlash against some of the home automation features and many people will move back to simpler manual controls just like they've clamored for less touchscreen nonsense in vehicles. Programmable home thermostats for zone-based climate control? Sure, I get that. Controlling window shades in a smallish house? Not so sure about the value-add there.

So not only would this purported Home Control touchpanel need to be better in multiple ways than your iPhone, it would also need to be better in multiple ways than an iPad mounted on the wall.

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