SFPD requests bar surveillance footage for lost iPhone 5 probe
Jose Valle, whose family owns the Cava 22 bar and restaurant where the device was misplaced, told CNet that SFPD representatives recently visited the establishment with a request to see surveillance video from July 21 and 22 as part of their "lost iPhone case." Valle said he has tried to share the video with investigators, but they have yet to follow up.
He was doubtful that the video footage from Cava 22 would shed much light on what happened to the missing handset. He operates six cameras throughout the bar, but they are set up only to record images approximately every three minutes. Also, some parts of the bar are not well lit, making it unlikely that details from the footage will be sufficiently clear.
According to Lt. Troy Dangerfield, a spokesman for the department, the request for footage is most likely part of an internal probe into officers' handling of a visit to a residence in connection with the lost prototype. After an Apple employee apparently left the device at Cava22 in late July, the company subsequently tracked the prototype to a nearby residence and contacted the police for help in recovering it.
Credit: Greg Sandoval/CNet.
SFPD has experienced some confusion over the issue, as it first claimed that no officers had accompanied Apple security officials to the address. But, the department now says that plainclothes officers went with the iPhone maker's employees to the residence, but did not go inside.
22-year-old Sergio Calderón, the resident at the address in question, alleged that he was threatened by the officers, adding that he would not have allowed the search if he had known the men were Apple employees. Calderón said earlier this month that he had talked to an attorney about the issue, though SFPD said he has yet to file a complaint.
Dangerfield confirmed that no criminal investigation has been opened for the lost device, as Apple has yet to file a police report.
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That can hardly be called 'footage', then. Maybe yardage, but not footage.
Can't these prototypes be fitted internally with a harmless radioactive material that can be tracked by satellites or ground equipment that would still be functional after the device was powered off and that wouldn't affect the electronics of the device? Or am I just making stuff up that doesn't yet exist in the year 2011?
Plain stupid, in France just rumors of lost intellectual property to chinese companies made heads rolls, French government went full rage against China even without any concrete proof, in the end we all learned that it was only a rumor.
Apple is competing with two cartels that will do anything to kill iPhone and they keep losing the thing.
Just stupid.
The request is 'most likely'???
I would think that a police spokesperson would find out if they did ask and why before speaking. Or give a 'cannot speak about active investigations' brush off.
Frankly this seems more and more to me to be a huge con game and the SFPD are also victims. A couple of sites already suggested that this bar is behind it all for the press. Including setting up a fake linked in profile saying a guy works for Apple in security and then taking it down just after the blogs would have verified the name. Calling the cops and asking for help to retrieve a phone is not out of line, cops can do such escorts to be there in case someone takes a swing etc. This Sergio claiming he was told they were all cops and that someone threatened him, when in fact nothing of the kind happened. The confusion about them going to the house could be because the initial request could be because the 'employees' never said it was a prototype but the sites asked about that specifically, so anyone doing a search for iPhone prototype would get zero hits.
Three details in particular stand out.
1. Apple wouldn't wait a day plus. They would assume that anyone with the phone would post the details, erase it etc. And after last year any employee with a field test unit is probably under rules to be hyperaware of where the phone is. And they probably have all of them on one 'find my iphone' list that someone checks hourly and if anything seems off, they send a call back message to the phones to make sure the right folks have them.
2. Where are the photos etc? The phone was in the wild for a good day. Any site out there knows the real mistake Gizmodo made was admitting they had the phone in their possession. They should have left their hands etc out of the videos and just said 'sources have provided us with' so they could hide behind shield laws.
3. The bar has security cameras that conveniently only take photos in poorly lit areas and only every three minutes. And the police apparently asked nicely to see those photos. Sorry, but if this was a legit investigation, they show up with a warrant and walk out with what they want. Not to mention simply why would they need the footage. How would it prove anything other than Sergio was at the bar, which he admitted. It doesn't prove what was said at his house or even if the people really worked for Apple.
Yes perhaps the blog version is all true and Apple Security has some trumped up worms in their midst. But it still seems equally possible that this bar owner saw a chance to get some major press and set up the profile etc to pad the story. Perhaps the SFPD pissed him off and he wants to make them look bad if he can, thus why his buddy Sergio is saying things about lies and threats.
Who knows at this point. The only truth so far seems to be that the bar is getting a lot of attention with the photos and the name dropping. I'm surprised no one has mentioned their new drink menu etc
Apple is competing with two cartels that will do anything to kill iPhone and they keep losing the thing.
Just stupid.
There's no real proof an Apple employee was at said bar at all, much less one with an iPhone prototype that was perhaps lost. If the SFPD wants the footage perhaps it is to verify anyone from Apple was there.
Also there is no proof that the iPhone 4 was 'lost' versus Mr Hogan seeing someone slip their iPhone into a jacket pocket etc and he picked said pocket for a free phone. He told Gizmodo he figured out something was up when he tried to restore the phone- which is done to wipe out any possible tracking software. And then apparently he roamed around the phone, got the Facebook log in etc. Even his roommates claim he was bragging about snatching himself a free iPhone when he got home, perhaps they aren't lying about that
Who knows at this point. The only truth so far seems to be that the bar is getting a lot of attention with the photos and the name dropping. I'm surprised no one has mentioned their new drink menu etc
Hasn't it been about 3 months since the alleged incident occurred? Seems like a long time to wait to request footage.
I'm half-thinking of opening up my own Irish pub right outside the new spaceship campus. I'll call it Bowen's and have a drink called the prototype. I'll even have a vacuum tube system where lost phones can be sent right back to Apple HQ immediately.