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'iPhone 5G' in late 2020 will drive 200 million sales for Apple, says Ming-Chi Kuo

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Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has thrown his hat into the ring in regards to iPhone 5G predictions, and also suspects that it will be released in the second half of 2020, and it will have a big impact on sales.

"We believe the uncertainty has been removed after Apple and Qualcomm's end of patent dispute and entrance into a six-year licensing deal, and Intel's announcement that it will exit the 5G baseband chip business," writes Ming-Chi Kuo in a note to investors, seen by AppleInsider.

Samsung is expected to provide sub-6GHz modem parts, with Qualcomm providing modems mmWave markets. Intel has exited the 5G smartphone modem market entirely, and Huawei saying that it would supply a modem to Apple is likely just a loud PR move by the company.

Kuo expects that the modem addition will grow iPhone sales from between 188 million and 192 million in 2019, to 195 million to 200 million by 2020. Between 70 million and 75 million of those sales in 2020 are predicted to be in the second half of 2020, following the iPhone 5G release.

Even with the increase from 2019 to 2020, that still falls short of the heyday of iPhone sales in 2015, with the company selling 231.2 million iPhones in that year. The company sold 211.8 million, 216.8 million, and 217.7 million iPhones in fiscal years 2016, 2017, and 2018 respectively.

In regards to the "iPhone 5G," TSMC has also developed a 5-nanometer design infrastructure, which can be employed for future chip designs and could land in the 2020 refresh. Earlier speculation suggested it could be used in the "A14" chips for the 2020 iPhones, and depending on the fortunes of N6, could still be a possibility.

Other rumors have pegged the entire 2020 line to use OLED screens, versus OLED in two models, and LCD in the iPhone XR at present. Samsung is expected to be the main supplier of OLED screens, but LG Display and Japan Display aren't presently expected to garner any orders.



39 Comments

GeorgeBMac 8 Years · 11421 comments

... Huawei saying that it would supply a modem to Apple is likely just a loud PR move by the company.

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Is there any factual basis for that statement -- other than Trump's smear campaign?

GeorgeBMac 8 Years · 11421 comments

Actually, I would think that, after waiting till September of 2020 to release a phone with current technology in it, the biggest increase in sales would be from those who held off buying a phone till Apple released one with 5G.   Unfortunately, many would have already given up and moved to Samsung or Huawei phones -- or any of the others that have modern modems in them.

The arguments that
1)  "You can't use it today -- and I get a new phone every year"
2)  "It doesn't apply to me because I live in a remote, rural area."
Are basically bogus.   Countries, telecoms and mobile equipment manufacturers aren't sinking billions into it because it has no value.

Yes, the U.S. is behind in rolling out 5G (even though Verizon plans to have it in 30 cities before 2020).   But, that is because of politics.  Other countries, like China, are rolling it out with the full support of their manufacturers and national & local governments.  But, for Apple, China is rapidly becoming their major market -- they wouldn't want to set themselves even further back by participating in political gamesmanship.

SpamSandwich 19 Years · 32917 comments

Sounds like those locations currently testing 5G are having technical problems. Expect the rollout across the US to be very slow.

wood1208 10 Years · 2938 comments

Intel has exited the 5G smartphone modem market entirely or just 5G smartphone modem business where requirements are stringent. Intel web site still promoting Intel on 5G tech. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-network/5g-technology-overview.html