Apple TV comes to Roku, and Ultra-Wideband location is on its way to us, on the AppleInsider Podcast

A little tiff there boys?  I liked the over-talking each other maybe a video next time. 

mcdave said:

A little tiff there boys?  I liked the over-talking each other maybe a video next time. 

I think the cross-talk came about because William’s media industry background told him most shows are a hit & hope or retrospective successes.  I think most tech industry success (Amazon, FaceBook, Google) are retrospective successes but Apple’s difference is more calculated successes. Not every time & definitely not in services but for hardware - mostly.

The jury is out if AppleTV (product/app/service) will work out but you can’t deny the effort.

I’ll have to finish the podcast it sounds like there’s some good back and forth about to come.  

I think Apple TV Ecosystem is ultimately going to work but it’s going to struggle if Apple doesn’t realize how to harness 
various streams of media.    Let me explain.   The Mac came to fruition from the notion that typical computers of that epoch were overly complex which reduced consumer acceptance thus the Mac being far easier become the “computer for the rest of us” despite the high costs.  

I view media as having essentially devolved into such a narrow band of coverage it has made music difficult to discover.   Apple has spent perhaps too much time chasing this narrow band in Music and in Movies.   They have not found a way to democratize media and level the digital distribution at some level. 

YouTube is not a hit because of big megastars...it’s a hit because it was designed to give a voice to the everyday person.  I’m increasingly finding value in the content that is coming from YouTube versus other sources despite Googles best attempts to kill the platform. 

Apple’s strategy for Apple TV needs to encompass the grassroots, low budget high passion people mated with your talented professionals.    Humans connect with real people best.    If Apple TV+ is nothing but glossy and typical Hollywood fare it’s going to get shutoff by thousands of people that already have all they can eat there.   

hmurchison said:

mcdave said:

A little tiff there boys?  I liked the over-talking each other maybe a video next time. 

I think the cross-talk came about because William’s media industry background told him most shows are a hit & hope or retrospective successes.  I think most tech industry success (Amazon, FaceBook, Google) are retrospective successes but Apple’s difference is more calculated successes. Not every time & definitely not in services but for hardware - mostly.

The jury is out if AppleTV (product/app/service) will work out but you can’t deny the effort.

I’ll have to finish the podcast it sounds like there’s some good back and forth about to come.  

I think Apple TV Ecosystem is ultimately going to work but it’s going to struggle if Apple doesn’t realize how to harness 
various streams of media.    Let me explain.   The Mac came to fruition from the notion that typical computers of that epoch were overly complex which reduced consumer acceptance thus the Mac being far easier become the “computer for the rest of us” despite the high costs.  

I view media as having essentially devolved into such a narrow band of coverage it has made music difficult to discover.   Apple has spent perhaps too much time chasing this narrow band in Music and in Movies.   They have not found a way to democratize media and level the digital distribution at some level. 

YouTube is not a hit because of big megastars...it’s a hit because it was designed to give a voice to the everyday person.  I’m increasingly finding value in the content that is coming from YouTube versus other sources despite Googles best attempts to kill the platform. 

Apple’s strategy for Apple TV needs to encompass the grassroots, low budget high passion people mated with your talented professionals.    Humans connect with real people best.    If Apple TV+ is nothing but glossy and typical Hollywood fare it’s going to get shutoff by thousands of people that already have all they can eat there.   

For AppleTV+, valid.  Though AppleTV is more than the service, it’s the holistic approach. The future of TV wasn’t Apps, it was the whole stack, probably Apple’s first hybrid stack where they concede to 3rd party at every layer but still manage to hold the concept intact.
AppleTV can still succeed without AppleTV+.