William Gallagher
Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is predicting that an under-display camera, and under-display Face ID, will come in 2024's high-end iPhone 16.
Again extrapolating from his previous reports instead of having any new information, Ming-Chi Kuo has tweeted his expectation for what he calls a "real full-screen iPhone" coming in 2024.
I think the real full-screen iPhone will come in 2024. High-end iPhones in 2024 would adopt an under-display front camera alongside the under-display Face ID. A low-light condition is detrimental to front camera quality, and ISP & algorithm are critical for quality improvements. https://t.co/vWjeZYZUPK
— (Ming-Chi Kuo) (@mingchikuo) April 20, 2022
This tweet follows, and responds to, an April 2, 2022 one in which Kuo agrees with analyst Ross Young about under-display Face ID coming in 2024. Kuo said then that he believes the "schedule is less of a technical issue and more of a marketing purpose."
The new tweet repeats that Face ID assertion, and adds the prediction that the front selfie camera would also go beneath the display. Kuo isn't clear on how this will be done, as he says "a low light condition is detrimental to front camera quality."
However, he also says that an Image Signal Processor (ISP) and the right "algorithm are critical for quality improvements." So although still not based on any direct supply chain sources, he may be implying that in this case the delay to 2024 is for Apple to have time to surmount technical obstacles.
Previously best known for his research notes written for company investors, Ming-Chi Kuo began tweeting more details about Apple from March, 2022. Most recently, he's predicted details about the iPhone 14 having an upgraded front camera.
However, as with most of his Tweets so far, that prediction is also based on extrapolation instead of any cited information.
Other sources, though, have a reported details that could fit with Kuo's supposition. Samsung, for example, is allegedly already creating under-panel technology that would hide the Face ID module.
That's reported to potentially be intended to arrive with 2023's "iPhone 15 Pro."
Kuo himself has been reporting that Apple would add such a hidden Face ID system, saying in 2021 that he believed it would come in 2023.
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I do not care that a shrinking bit of screen turned into a notch that might turn into a hole that might dissapear over the coruse of 5 years or whatever. I do care howevcer that iOS and mainstream apps are less of a buggy glitchy UX kludge on that pure uninterrupted screen. Gapless playback in Apple Music? Doesnt work (again). Amazon? Freezes everything for a second here and there when running. eBay? Crashes regularly. WIFI turned off? Assumes I want it to turn back on and does so without me. Notifications turned off? Apps try to get me to turn them back on. Photos? Green reflection artifacts in almost every photo on the 12 Pro Max that I never saw on any ohter iPhone. And on and on.
That’s a shame, I admit I’d assumed that by the time it came to replace my XS Max the notch would be gone.
I might be able to eek another year out of my phone, but another two is a big stretch.
It doesn’t bother me too much, but the notch presents a compromised design and I’d like to see it gone.