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TSMC's 3nm chips won't be ready in time for 2022 MacBook Pros, Kuo says

14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros

Well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is doubling down on his forecast that Apple's upcoming MacBook Pro and iPad Pro models won't sport processors built on a 3nm chipmaking process.

In a tweet on Friday, Kuo reiterated his prediction that upcoming 14-inch MacBook Pro and 16-inch MacBook Pro models would sport new chips based on TSMC's existing 5nm production process. That runs counter to other reports suggesting that the models would have 3nm chips.

According to Kuo, components must be purchased by October at the latest for products will enter mass production in the fourth quarter of 2022. He says that TSMC's 3nm chips won't be available until January 2023 at the earliest.

As far as evidence backing up his claim, the analyst says that TSMC's 3nm chip production cycle is about "4 months." So, despite the fact that TSMC is kicking off mass production of 3nm chips in September, they won't be ready to ship until January.

In a tweet from earlier in August, Kuo also noted that TSMC's own financial guidance only includes contributions from 3nm chips starting in the first quarter of 2023.

Kuo's prediction here runs counter to other reports from the likes of DigiTimes and other publications.

However, some reports, such as a piece in the Commercial Times, don't outline a specific start date for 3nm chips. Earlier in August, the Commercial Times said that Apple would be the first company to get its hands on 3nm chips, and that production of 3nm chips would start in September. Both of those claims can still line up with Kuo's forecast.

Apple is rumored to be working on new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models for release in the second half of 2022. Those models are expected to be incremental upgrades with updated "M2 Pro" and "M2 Pro Max" processors.



14 Comments

netrox 12 Years · 1510 comments

But given the history of processes, a new process tends to happen every two to three generations so it's nothing remarkable. It would be remarkable if they manage to deliver 3nm just a generation later.

Apple could just delay the release of M2 Pro/Max.

But again, I can envision M2 Ultra using 3nm which would allow Apple to position it as a power workstation that makes a huge difference. 

hackintoisier 5 Years · 86 comments

What if apple doesn’t release its MacBooks until spring, that would give it time mass manufacture m2 pro, max, ultra, extreme on 3nm with an updated core design, and unleash the power of 3nm on the world. I’m patiently waiting for a Mac mini based on 3nm, and finally after all these years, retire hackintosh. 

hypoluxa 22 Years · 619 comments

What if apple doesn’t release its MacBooks until spring, that would give it time mass manufacture m2 pro, max, ultra, extreme on 3nm with an updated core design, and unleash the power of 3nm on the world. I’m patiently waiting for a Mac mini based on 3nm, and finally after all these years, retire hackintosh. 

I would imagine that's what they would like to do (wait for 3nm for the Pro/Max/Ultra... versions). I am wondering though if they will make their projected 2 yr transition window with the MacPro and high end Mini before the end of this calendar yr. Or if they will just say "sod it" lets wait for the 3nm to be ready for those too.

canukstorm 11 Years · 2744 comments

Not according to this report

https://ctee.com.tw/news/tech/702617.html

9secondkox2 8 Years · 3148 comments

Delay for 3nm seems the logical choice if kuo is accurate. Apple could also announce first, then sell, but that doesn’t have the same sales impact as “hype, hype, hype… and by the way you can buy it today!” 

I won’t mind a delay. Been waiting to get past the gen 1 m series and replace my 2016 MBP 15”.