The push, revealed in an internal memo leaked to The Verge, would allow AT&T to further differentiate itself from competitors Verizon and Sprint, which run CDMA networks and do not offer HSDPA connectivity. However, HSDPA also does not fall under the definition of "true" 4G.
The language of the memo seems to suggest that Apple is open to the idea, and even goes as far as to say that the change will arrive in the form of an update to iOS for AT&T iPhones.
"AT&T is working with Apple to update the network indicator for AT&T's iPhone 4S to read "4G," the memo reads. "This will happen with an iOS release from Apple. Since iPhone 4S is an HSDPA device, our customers will get 4G speeds from day one. Only AT&T has this unique network advantage."
A redesigned antenna that allows for faster HSDPA connections is one of the major features of the new iPhone 4S unveiled this week. However, at the company's keynote presentation, Apple executives did not outright declare that the iPhone 4S is a 4G phone.
While Apple has not yet gone as far as to call the iPhone 4S a "4G phone," U.S. carriers AT&T and T-Mobile have advertised their own HSPA+ networks as having "4G" speeds, even though they aren't true fourth-generation technology. AT&T is currently rolling out a true LTE 4G network in the U.S., and the carrier's proposed acquisition of T-Mobile would give it more spectrum to expand its coverage.
Apple executives this week went as far as to say that the iPhone 4S offers data speeds that are competitive with existing 4G networks.
AT&T's official coverage map shows HSPA+ "4G" available in a number of major metropolitan areas across the U.S., though the vast majority of the country receives either traditional 3G "mobile broadband," or even slower EDGE speeds. AT&T's 4G LTE network is available in a total of five cities.
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Tim wisely went out of his way at the launch to remark that the 'what is and isn't 4G debate' was better left to others and that Apple wasn't getting involved.
Saw this at another forum (Hofo) and figured it was worth posting here.
iPhone has been HSDPA since iPhone 3G. Specifically:
iPhone 3G: HSDPA Release 5 / Cat 6 (3.6 Mbps)
iPhone 3GS: HSDPA Release 5 / Cat 8 (7.2 Mbps)
iPhone 4: HSDPA Release 5 / Cat 8 (7.2 Mbps)
iPhone 4S: HSDPA Release 5 / Cat 10 (14 Mbps)
For HSPA+ (4G) you need to have either 64-QAM or MIMO or Dual-Cell or a combination of those. iPhone 4S has neither. It's just a faster version of HSDPA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hsdpa#U....29_categories
http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...1#post14567941
Maybe that's why Apple was very careful not to call it 4G, because it isn't even with the liberal definition of HSPA+ being 4G. If this is the case, I would be surprised to see Apple concede to AT&T on this.
Right- the iPhone 4S can reach 4G-like speeds, just not on AT&T's network.
The ITU announced in December 2010 that WiMax, LTE, and HSPA+ are 4G technologies.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/ITU-s...lly-4G_id15435