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Supreme Court ruling on Apple App Store fee case not expected until mid-2019

Benjamin Schachter of Macquarie Research expects that the Supreme Court's verdict on a long-running suit over developer's fees in the App Store will be heard soon, but the ruling won't come down until early 2019, and any possible financial impact is at least a year away.

As the world turns its eyes Thursday to the hearings in Washington of U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, one analyst is looking ahead to one of the cases the Court will be considering this fall.

The report authored by Schachter notes that the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments in Apple v. Pepper, a case concerning the antitrust implications of Apple's App Store fees, as early as the last week of November. However, the analyst notes that the arguments could be pushed back to early 2019.

"In the scenario that Pepper wins (if court rules that consumers are "direct purchasers" with grounds to sue), the case will continue back in the lower courts," the note said. "If Apple wins, it is likely that a similar lawsuit will be filed on behalf of developers, not consumers. We believe that under either scenario, this case will call heightened attention to the issue of App Store economics to investors' analysis, although the Supreme Court decision will not directly impact the model."

The note says that the case could hurt Apple's performance if the decision results in lower rates, although that is several steps away. Macquarie, in the note, did not adjust its price target for Apple, keeping it at $235.

A decision is likely to arrive in the spring or summer of 2019.

The Pepper case was first filed in 2011. The case concerns a group of app developers who believe Apple's App Store fee regime violates antitrust laws. The plaintiffs allege that Apple has engaged in anti-competitive behaviors in taking a cut from developers' sale proceeds. Also at issue in the case is whether companies like Apple can be sued under antitrust law over App Stores, with the plaintiffs potentially awarded treble damages because of the behavior. Google, which has its own version of the App Store, would also be affected by any ruling.

In May, The Department of Justice filed a brief taking Apple's side in the Pepper case. Apple appealed to the Supreme Court after the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the plaintiffs, and the court agreed in June to hear the case during its next term.



19 Comments

zoetmb 18 Years · 2655 comments

This is a ridiculous case and it should have been thrown out.   Any business has the right to charge a fee for the products that it sells and any business has the right to demand exclusivity when the products are built using their platform and tools.    But let's say the developers win their case and they win the right to sell their apps outside of the App Store.  What do they think is going to happen?  Apple will simply start charging royalties to use their platform and/or development tools that will amount to the same fees, possibly even higher fees.   

I know they believe the 30% is onerous, but if they were selling a physical product to physical retailers or distributors, like Ingram Micro-D, what do they think the wholesale price would be?  It would be 45% to 55% below list.    They would get even less.   And even selling virtually, Amazon wouldn't give them a very good deal either.   The only thing they'd be able to do to their advantage would be to sell the product themselves without giving Apple a cut, but as I wrote above, Apple would simply change the model and charge royalties and development tool fees.  

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sflocal 17 Years · 6142 comments

As a developer myself, I don't stand in this crowd of entitled whiners that feel Apple doesn't deserve a cut for doing all the front-end work and financial logistics.  It just irks me to the nth degree how entitled people have become.

Apple built this amazing platform, giving a lonely developer the ability to focus on creating apps and Apple to handle all the sales and marketing of their app.  Try doing that pre-App store.

Developers nowadays have zero clue how us older developers had to do it in the old days.  They are more than welcome to get off the iOS train and develop exclusively for Android and see how well that works for them.

Crybabies.

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Anachr0n 8 Years · 37 comments

Drawing an analogy to a bricks and mortar store; where the iPhone is Macy’s.

This would be like some home based  artisan who makes silk scarves walking into Macy’s and setting up a table to sell her scarves. Worse yet, they’d  be getting Macy’s to endorse their product, get Macy’s staff to man the booth 24x7, and use their point of sale system. Then expect to get 100% of proceeds. 

Not bloody likely. 

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gatorguy 14 Years · 24642 comments

"The extent (if any) to which app purchasers are injured by Apple's allegedly supracompetitive commission, and by its refusal to allow developers to sell iPhone apps through other channels, thus depends on whether those Apple practices have caused developers to increase the prices charged for their apps in the App Store," the US Department of Justice wrote. "To determine whether third-party app developers would have charged lower prices in a hypothetical market in which they were freed from Apple's allegedly unlawful practices, a court would need to conduct precisely the sort of pass-on analysis that the Court in Illinois Brick rejected." 
Anachr0n said:
Drawing an analogy to a bricks and mortar store; where the iPhone is Macy’s.

This would be like some home based  artisan who makes silk scarves walking into Macy’s and setting up a table to sell her scarves. Worse yet, they’d  be getting Macy’s to endorse their product, get Macy’s staff to man the booth 24x7, and use their point of sale system. Then expect to get 100% of proceeds. 

Not bloody likely. 

No sir. that's not at all a good comparison.

If Macy's also denied some home-based artisan the opportunity to sell their wares anywhere else and force them to deal ONLY thru Macy's who would take a 1/3 cut for doing so THEN you'd have a decent analogy. 

"The extent (if any) to which app purchasers are injured by Apple's allegedly supracompetitive commission, and by its refusal to allow developers to sell iPhone apps through other channels, thus depends on whether those Apple practices have caused developers to increase the prices charged for their apps in the App Store," the US Department of Justice wrote. "To determine whether third-party app developers would have charged lower prices in a hypothetical market in which they were freed from Apple's allegedly unlawful practices, a court would need to conduct precisely the sort of pass-on analysis that the Court in Illinois Brick rejected." 

radarthekat 13 Years · 3904 comments

gatorguy said:
"The extent (if any) to which app purchasers are injured by Apple's allegedly supracompetitive commission, and by its refusal to allow developers to sell iPhone apps through other channels, thus depends on whether those Apple practices have caused developers to increase the prices charged for their apps in the App Store," the US Department of Justice wrote. "To determine whether third-party app developers would have charged lower prices in a hypothetical market in which they were freed from Apple's allegedly unlawful practices, a court would need to conduct precisely the sort of pass-on analysis that the Court in Illinois Brick rejected." 
Anachr0n said:
Drawing an analogy to a bricks and mortar store; where the iPhone is Macy’s.

This would be like some home based  artisan who makes silk scarves walking into Macy’s and setting up a table to sell her scarves. Worse yet, they’d  be getting Macy’s to endorse their product, get Macy’s staff to man the booth 24x7, and use their point of sale system. Then expect to get 100% of proceeds. 

Not bloody likely. 
No sir. that's not at all a good comparison.

If Macy's also denied some home-based artisan the opportunity to sell their wares anywhere else and force them to deal ONLY thru Macy's who would take a 1/3 cut for doing so THEN you'd have a decent analogy. 

"The extent (if any) to which app purchasers are injured by Apple's allegedly supracompetitive commission, and by its refusal to allow developers to sell iPhone apps through other channels, thus depends on whether those Apple practices have caused developers to increase the prices charged for their apps in the App Store," the US Department of Justice wrote. "To determine whether third-party app developers would have charged lower prices in a hypothetical market in which they were freed from Apple's allegedly unlawful practices, a court would need to conduct precisely the sort of pass-on analysis that the Court in Illinois Brick rejected." 

Are you sure the Macy’s anology isn’t valid?  Then let’s use the movie theater analogy. You aren’t allowed to bring your own food to most movie theaters in the US.  I believe the movie theater has the right to this restriction, because you’re watching the movie on their property.  And they have a right to jack the prices of snack foods sold in their theaters, taking a cut of each sale. Nobody has yet presented an argument that they should be forced to allow others to come into the theater lobby and sell snack foods without negotiating a deal with the movie theater, and I’ve been presenting the movie theater analogy for years here in comments on related AI articles. 

The reason I think this analogy holds up is that, just as the movie theater owns the property within which you’ll be consuming the snack foods, Apple, and not its customers, owns iOS, the property within which apps are run, providing the libraries that get called to access the iPhone and iPad hardware, from sensors to screen.  iOS is merely licensed to each user, not sold as the physical iPhone hardware is, and that makes all the difference.  You wanna sideload apps, install your own OS on the device, and then have at it.  It’s your hardware to do with as you wish; throw it down the stairs too if you like.  But if you want access to iOS (if you want access to the big screen theater showing the movie), you are subject to the property rights held by Apple (the movie theater operator/owner). 

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