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Apple hasn't abandoned Touch ID in flagship iPhones yet

Left: the original Touch ID. Right: Face ID. Center: mockup of all-display Touch ID

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Apple is researching a version of Touch ID would use sensors behind an OLED screen rather than via a specific button — and Apple includes a laptop in its examples of touchscreen devices.

A new patent from Apple details how devices with an OLED screen can provide Touch ID-like functionality across any point of the display's "active area." Among the examples of the method's application, Apple describes a laptop — and this follows the recent hint of a touchscreen MacBook Pro in another recent patent.

"This relates to a touch screen and, more particularly, to a touch screen configured for optical touch sensing and user identification using organic light emitting diodes (OLEDs)," says Apple in US Patent No 10,541,280, "OLED based touch sensing and user identification."

"Touch screens, in particular, are becoming increasingly popular because of their ease and versatility of operation as well as their declining price," it continues. "Touch screens can include a touch sensor and a display device positioned partially or fully behind the touch sensor so that the touch-sensitive surface can cover at least a portion of the active area of the display device."

While listing other technologies that can be used for touchscreens, such as LCDs, the patent says that OLED has clear advantages.

"OLEDs, for example, can provide a flat or flexible display in a relatively thin package that can be suitable for use in a variety of portable electronic devices," it says. "In addition, OLED displays can display brighter and more vibrant images in a thinner and lighter package compared to LCD displays, making them suitable for use in compact portable electronic devices."

The drawings accompanying the patent include one showing a laptop with a touchscreen, although the accompanying text instead describes a "personal computer... (e.g., a tablet computer or desktop computer)."

Detail from the patent showing a laptop with a touchscreen Detail from the patent showing a laptop with a touchscreen

With any type of device, the patent describes how the user or other objects can be identified "based on its optical properties."

"For example, water can have an absorption band around 1700 nm, whereas a finger object can have an absorption band around 1000-1500 nm," it says. "In some examples, water... and object... can have different spectral 'fingerprints.' A spectral fingerprint can include the absorbance (or reflectance) values across a spectrum of wavelength (e.g., visible range)."

"Based on the frequency of the reflected light or spectral 'fingerprint' detected by the plurality of OLEDs, a processor or controller can determine the type of object," it continues.

The "plurality" of OLEDs is to do with how one or more than display an image, emit light for this optical touch sensing, and even detect reflections of that emitted light.

"[An] approximate touch location can be determined by capacitive touch sensors, and one or more finer details can be resolved by optical touch sensors. The touch screen can include a spatial filter configured to focus light emitted from the OLEDs and/or reflected light detected by the OLEDs for improved optical touch sensing. Emitted light can reflect off an object (e.g., a finger) touching or hovering proximate to the touch screen, for example."

So as well as identifying the user, such a system could interpret a hovering action as well.

The two credited inventors, Christoph H. Krah and Kingsuk Brahma, have between them around 80 patents. Very many of them are concerned with touch displays, including systems for proximity and multi-touch sensor detection, plus power management for touch controllers.

This is not the first time that Apple has filed a patent regarding a whole-display Touch ID. A previous application included the use of acoustic imaging to achieve identification.

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has also reported claims that Apple will reinstate "fingerprint on display" Touch ID for iPhones in 2021.



19 Comments

SnickersMagoo 7 Years · 77 comments

Touch ID will never be as convenient as Face ID.....Face ID takes zero effort......Touch ID not so much...looks like I'll be holding on to my 11 Pro for a while.

rotateleftbyte 12 Years · 1630 comments

Touch ID will never be as convenient as Face ID.....Face ID takes zero effort......Touch ID not so much...looks like I'll be holding on to my 11 Pro for a while.
Face ID will never be as convenient as TouchID. Touch ID takes zero effort when you are wearing protective headgear eg Crash helmets.

Each of us has their own use case and will find that one or the other is the best. Having to take my crash helmet off just to use Face ID is just not  practical.

M68000 7 Years · 887 comments

Touch ID will never be as convenient as Face ID.....Face ID takes zero effort......Touch ID not so much...looks like I'll be holding on to my 11 Pro for a while.

There are a lot of people who prefer Touch ID.  If you don’t that’s fine.  Having both options in future phones could be a great thing.  Also,  having such ability may allow cheaper phone option with full screen and no Face ID.  It looks like Apple is now happy having several phone options all the time. What will really be interesting to find out is power consumption between using Face ID and this new version of Touch ID.

jcs2305 11 Years · 1342 comments

Touch ID will never be as convenient as Face ID.....Face ID takes zero effort......Touch ID not so much...looks like I'll be holding on to my 11 Pro for a while.
Face ID will never be as convenient as TouchID. Touch ID takes zero effort when you are wearing protective headgear eg Crash helmets.

Each of us has their own use case and will find that one or the other is the best. Having to take my crash helmet off just to use Face ID is just not  practical.

I also don’t think the majority of Face ID users are using them with crash helmets either.   I have no problems with a hat, beard no beard or reflective sunglasses using Touch ID. However on my iPad Pro 10.5 it’s often takes me a couple or tries to get it to open with Touch ID. I have my index and thumbs on both hands set up. It frequently doesn’t take my index fingers. It also doesn’t like the slightest bit of moisture on my hands either. These are things that simply don’t happen with Fade Id. At least for me. 


I would def like the option of having both as in the case of being off angle and Face ID won’t open or just as a secondary option. That would be a nice addition. I just don’t agree that with the majority of use cases that Face ID isn’t practical as you stated. 

KutraClan33 4 Years · 7 comments

I prefer Touch ID. And I'm not the only one who do! There is no reason for apple to drop that.