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Apple kept iMessage off Android to lock users in to iOS

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Further details from the Epic Games court filings cite Apple executives saying they could have made an Android version of iMessage, but it would "hurt us more than help us."

Included in Epic Games's "Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law" court submission ahead of its trial with Apple, is a series of claims that Apple deliberately locks users into its ecosystem. Quoting executives Eddy Cue, Phil Schiller, and Craig Federighi, the "Fortnite" developer says Apple intended to prevent users switching to Android.

"[Apple] could have made a version on Android that worked with iOS," Eddy Cue is quoted as saying. "[There could] have been cross-compatibility with the iOS platform so that users of both platforms would have been able to exchange messages with one another seamlessly."

According to Epic Games, both Federighi and Schiller blocked the creation of an Android version of iMessage. "[Moving] iMessage to Android will hurt us more than help us," Schiller is reported to have said.

Epic also quotes a 2016 email from a former Apple employee. Saying "the #1 most difficult [reason] to leave the Apple universe app is iMessage," the ex-employee added that "iMessage amounts to serious lock-in."

Epic Games's court submissions concentrate on establishing that Apple's curation of the App Store, and subsequent rejection of certain apps, is a business decision rather than a security one.

Despite the claims in Epic's filings, Apple has previously been reported to be considering iMessage on Android, and also tried to create a more universal standard. Following a debunked 2016 rumor that Apple was developing an Android app, reports circulated that the company had at least genuinely made mockups for internal discussion.

Separately, Scott Forstall revealed in 2018 that Apple had originally wanted iMessage to be a more universal standard. Without specifying when the discussions took place, he said that Apple had talked at length with carriers.

"We approached the carriers to pursue adding features to the existing texting systems and removing the additional customer costs," he said. "For various reasons, from the difficulty of extending the existing standards, to challenges with interoperability between texting systems and carriers, to the desire of carriers to protect a significant revenue stream, these explorations didn't pan out."

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97 Comments

revenant 15 Years · 610 comments

there was little chance I was going to jump ship.

williamh 13 Years · 1048 comments

So a former employee claims Apple was trying to keep a competitive advantage? That’s shocking. Not.

I don’t understand why Epic thinks Apple had any obligation to do anything differently. 

ppietra 14 Years · 288 comments

Is this suppose to show any thing??? I mean, isn’t Apple supposed to build advantages for its own platform, to make its users come back?
iMessage being exclusive doesn’t even prevent people to message across platforms, nor does it prevent people to export old messages.

pujones1 12 Years · 222 comments

ppietra said:
Is this suppose to show any thing??? I mean, isn’t Apple supposed to build advantages for its own platform, to make its users come back?
iMessage being exclusive doesn’t even prevent people to message across platforms, nor does it prevent people to export old messages.

Totally agree with you. No company is obligated to develop for any other platform nor should they be. 


I’m not locked, manipulated or mind controlled into Apple’s ecosystem. I like the experience and the fact that everything works together. I like the security and privacy practices. I like the way they push out updates to so many products years after they aren’t new and that the products still can run smoothly. The ecosystem is simply better than anything else out there. 

Screw Epic. They only want money from Apple users by hook or crook. It’s funny how these companies and some developers think that Apple should bow to their wishes for a platform they built and spent billions developing and maintaining. Greed plain and simple. Everyone knows that Apple fans spend money. Lol. 

They can do a store within a store thing and pay 2.5 billion a year for Apple allowing them to do it. 

kkqd1337 12 Years · 471 comments

i disagree

i dont think there is anything very special about iMessage, i frankly dont think its very good at all.

but in saying that I hardly use it aside from some personal messages

i have a large work contact base on mixed platforms so i am forced to almost exclusively use WhatsApp, because thats where the users are, and its a good app to be fair, in fact i would say a lot better than iMessage

(discounting privacy concerns, but I honestly dont trust apple any more than I do facebook and i think those that believe apples privacy PR are really quite naive)