Apple still not in compliance with Dutch App Store rules, regulator says

I chose apple iPhones because of the security and ease of handling any issues in one spot.  If a consumer doesn’t want the security then they shouldn’t buy an iPhone.  These countries are greedy with their outrageous fines.  

Stoptheinsanity said:

I chose apple iPhones because of the security and ease of handling any issues in one spot.  If a consumer doesn’t want the security then they shouldn’t buy an iPhone.  These countries are greedy with their outrageous fines.  

Let's face it, the way Apple works is quite anticompetitive. Quite often they do allow external payment systems to be used sometimes even exclusively (Netflix, 1Password come to mind), sometimes it doesn't (as in the case Epic, DatingApps).  It's not even consistent in when they apply things and when not.
The overall quality of the Appstore and it's App Review is quite absymal and seems more motivated on Apple's side by greed (case in point adverts you have to scroll over for the 'real' results instead of cheap rip-offs) than by 'wanting to deliver a good customer experience'.
You can see that more and more with Apple digital services, their quality has deteriorated since Tim became Chief Excel Operator. Great for shareholder value, very bad for customers and I'm sure in the medium to long term this will be a leading cause for Apple's eventual decline. I've been holding Apple shares since way before the iPhone days (with my buying price of less thatn $2 that has been VERY profitable I admit), but right now Apple's future hasn't been looking that dark since the early 90's, the way management is currently behaving.
They are living off their substance and definitely lost their edge from the '00s. After the 'maker' generation in leadership (Jony, Steve), we're currently running the 'preserving' generation (less innovation, while milking every little drop of the existing products, while wasting billions on 'innovations' that don't materialize), I'm pretty sure the 'next' generation will destroy it all ... and Tim pretty much said he'll probably leave within the decade. I'm not sure when 'Peak Apple' will be, but my guess is, within the next 5 years.

humbug1873 said:

Stoptheinsanity said:

I chose apple iPhones because of the security and ease of handling any issues in one spot.  If a consumer doesn’t want the security then they shouldn’t buy an iPhone.  These countries are greedy with their outrageous fines.  

Let's face it, the way Apple works is quite anticompetitive. Quite often they do allow external payment systems to be used sometimes even exclusively (Netflix, 1Password come to mind), sometimes it doesn't (as in the case Epic, DatingApps).  It's not even consistent in when they apply things and when not.
The overall quality of the Appstore and it's App Review is quite absymal and seems more motivated on Apple's side by greed (case in point adverts you have to scroll over for the 'real' results instead of cheap rip-offs) than by 'wanting to deliver a good customer experience'.
You can see that more and more with Apple digital services, their quality has deteriorated since Tim became Chief Excel Operator. Great for shareholder value, very bad for customers and I'm sure in the medium to long term this will be a leading cause for Apple's eventual decline. I've been holding Apple shares since way before the iPhone days (with my buying price of less thatn $2 that has been VERY profitable I admit), but right now Apple's future hasn't been looking that dark since the early 90's, the way management is currently behaving.
They are living off their substance and definitely lost their edge from the '00s. After the 'maker' generation in leadership (Jony, Steve), we're currently running the 'preserving' generation (less innovation, while milking every little drop of the existing products, while wasting billions on 'innovations' that don't materialize), I'm pretty sure the 'next' generation will destroy it all ... and Tim pretty much said he'll probably leave within the decade. I'm not sure when 'Peak Apple' will be, but my guess is, within the next 5 years.

Every App developer can use their own billing system, even for Netflix I need to setup it up on their website, and pay outside the App … So Epic and the dating Apps can perfectly offer external payment systems, like Netflix. Yes they were not allowed to link directly from the App and that is inconvenient, but has the advantage it really leads to no confusion from the consumer side … I know where I can ask for a refund if needed … If everything is in App, go figure … Yes I will know, but most of the people, doubt it.

These kinds of judgements ring of protectionism. Not only does Apple not have a market majority world-wide, but penetration of the iPhone in Europe is significantly behind other 1st world markets.

It's clear this judgement will go back to appeals, since the accomodations required by the Dutch are beyond the scope of satisfying the judgement.