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Toyota president tells Apple to prepare for the long-haul with 'Apple Car'

Toyota's President weighed in on Apple's expected entry into the auto industry

Toyota President Akio Toyoda said that if an "Apple Car" becomes a reality, the Cupertino company should prepare for at least 40 years of service and support.

In a news conference on Thursday in his role as chairman of the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association, Mr. Toyoda said that he welcomed Apple's entry into the auto business, but added that the Cupertino company had better brace itself for the long haul.

"Anyone can make a car if they have the technical ability," said Mr. Toyoda. "But, once they make a car, I hope they'll recognize they have to steel themselves for 40 years of responding to customers and to various changes."

"Technology companies entering the car industry means that the car industry has a future, and choices for customers will widen," Toyoda continued. "We welcome new entries, but I don't think it would be fair for those people who are newly entering to say, 'We don't need to steel ourselves for 40 years, and you other folks who have been around for many years, you do that.'"

Rumors have long pointed to Apple entering the auto industry. It would allegedly be a fully-featured self-driving electric vehicle that will compete with Tesla and other EVs. Apple could partner with other popular manufacturers like Hyundai or BMW or seek another option.

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Investors say the "Apple Car" is a matter of "when and not if." An automated electric car from Apple could generate an estimated $50 billion by 2030.

An An "Apple Car" could reportedly arrive as early as 2024

Apple is confirmed to have been in partnership talks with established automakers. In January, Hyundai took the unusual step of confirming it was in negotiations with Apple. The public comments led to Apple reportedly pausing talks due to the lack of discretion. Hyundai and its subsidiary Kia then attempted to distance themselves from those comments.

While negotiations were ongoing, further reports surfaced claiming Hyundai bosses were "agonizing" over the project. The automaker allegedly considered handing the project over to Kia to help minimize any impact to the Hyundai brand from becoming a manufacturer of vehicles for other companies.

Hyundai is not the only potential partner for Apple for the "Apple Car," with the iPhone maker putting feelers out in other locations. It has allegedly held talks with carmakers in Japan, and UK MPs have also shown interest in bringing production to the country.

This isn't the first time established industry heavyweights have issued warnings to Apple with perhaps a hint of condescension as the Cupertino company enters a new market. After Apple announced the first iPhone, Microsoft's CEO at the time, Steve Ballmer, said, "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance." At the time, Microsoft was pushing its Windows Mobile operating system.

Motorola's CTO also commented at the time, saying, "There is nothing revolutionary or disruptive about any of the technologies. Touch interface, movement sensors, accelerometer, morphing, gesture recognition, 2-megapixel camera, built-in MP3 player, WiFi, Bluetooth, are already available in products from leaders in the mobile industry."

An "Apple Car" wouldn't likely release until 2024 or later.

52 Comments

ibill 20 Years · 404 comments

"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent car. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."

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robin huber 23 Years · 4053 comments

Yes, because Apple knows nothing about long term service and support. 

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prismatics 10 Years · 164 comments

Yes, because Apple knows nothing about long term service and support. 

In terms of cars, they actually don't.

Furthermore, Mr. Toyoda is not outright pulling a Ballmer here, so the comparison in the article seems to be somewhat unfounded.

I think the phrase reads like Mr. Toyoda says that Apple cannot simply take the profits of selling the car and pass the duty to support it to a manufacturer as these kinds of things last longer than todays tech companies - on average - even exist.

It's hard to imagine an Apple from 2021 still supporting a product from the Apple from 2005, but that is exactly what Toyoda is alluding to.

It seems that todays tech companies are by nature not able to think in such time frames.

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CloudTalkin 6 Years · 919 comments

ibill said:
"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent car. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."

That's not what he's saying at all.  In the article he even says, "Anyone can make a car if they have the technical ability".  He saying the tech companies should be prepared for service and support timeframes they may not be used to with their current product life cycles.  

Yes, because Apple knows nothing about long term service and support. 

Supporting a phone or computer for 5-10 years is not comparable to supporting something for up to 4 decades.  His caution is about understanding the requirement for a much longer timeframe of support.  

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rotateleftbyte 13 Years · 1633 comments

Yes, because Apple knows nothing about long term service and support. 

In terms of cars, they actually don't.
Very true. They won't be able to get out of stopping support and spares production after 5 years. Then there is the right to repair. There is no way that Apple would ever be charging me through the nose to change the brake pads. These are commodity items and any half-decent mechanic including myself can change them. The same goes for tyres and wiper blades.
Apple will be on a huge learning curve. What has worked for their business so far won't work when you get into the Automotive business.

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