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"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

appex said:

"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

So in that sense, Apple are never going to "compete" against the Surface. 

appex said:

"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

An Apple laptop with a touch screen?   Unlikely...
...   An IPad with a file system, external keyboard and mouse?   Inevitable...

appex said:

"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

I don't think Apple really needs to compete against the Microsoft Surface...All of Apple's products run circles around it both in quality, features, price, and of course, sales. We have Surface tablets in our organization and everyone I know that has one absolutely hates it. Its slow, horrible battery life, it gets hot and takes forever to charge. 

GeorgeBMac said:

appex said:

"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

An Apple laptop with a touch screen?   Unlikely...
...   An IPad with a file system, external keyboard and mouse?   Inevitable...

So essentially, a 2-in-1 tablet...as soon as you put a keyboard and mouse on it, it immediately becomes just this....something Apple said they'd never do. This means they'd have to make iOS which is a touchOS into a point and click OS...you might as well make macOS for tablets then. I don't see Apple doing this anytime soon. I think a filesystem makes sense, but not a keyboard and mouse. 

appex said:

"Microsoft Executive Says iPad Pro Was Apple's Response to Surface".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/16/microsoft-exec-says-ipad-pro-followed-surface

Of course. But the real response would be a true Mac tablet.

I've been using a surface pro for about 1 1/2 years at work now.  As far as a desktop replacement, it's a decent computer.  It's nice to be able to dock it at my workstation, but then grab it to take it to a meeting without having to rely on another computer.  To me it's 90% a portable desktop computer and 10% a tablet.  I almost never use it in tablet mode.  My stylus stays in my desk drawer all the time, and the resolution on the screen is so small using the touch screen as a tablet is too tedious.  

The surface is also buggy as hell.  A microsoft OS running on microsoft hardware should run just like an iPad, perfect.  The surface does not.  Excel (the program I'm in most of my day) crashes at least once a day.  Luckily I've gotten in the habit of saving my work often.  I don't mind it as a work computer, but I would never spend my hard earned $ on this for personal use.  

The iPad is a complete joy to use.  Solid, reliable and a UI that is made for a tablet.  Instant on, instant wake up.  No delay in waiting for anything.  Not with the Surface.  It's still trying to chug through Windows 10 which was not made for an ideal tablet experience.  I'm not saying the iPad could replace my surface because it can't.  I can't run my ERP system on it so I could never use it as a workstation.  So to me, like I said, it's really just a portable desktop replacement, not really a tablet that can compete with the iPad.