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Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 — everything you need to know

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Thunderbolt 5 has arrived, and Apple has adopted it on some of its new Mac models. Here's what has changed in Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4.

As a connectivity technology, Thunderbolt is deeply associated with Apple, due to its usage in Macs and then, later, the iPad Pro. Many of its products now support Thunderbolt 4, with it providing massive amounts of bandwidth for data transfers, as well as handling charging and even video duties.

Just like many other standards in the tech world, Thunderbolt is iteratively upgraded over time with new features. While the world is largely on Thunderbolt 4 for the moment, Thunderbolt 5 is just starting its rollout, and it promises to make big changes to what it can offer to users.

Intel previewed Thunderbolt 5 as an early prototype in October 2022, to demonstrate the speed benefits for file transfers among other items. By September 2023, Intel formally launched the technology, with expectations that hardware released in 2024 will use it.

Apple was expected to be an adopter of Thunderbolt 5 at some point. That time turned out to be October 2024, with the introduction of new Macs, with more support anticipated with future releases.

This is what differences users can expect to see when Apple does shift from Thunderbolt 4 to Thunderbolt 5.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Main specifications

SpecificationsThunderbolt 5Thunderbolt 4
Connection TypeUSB Type-CUSB Type-C
Bandwidth80Gb/s bi-directional,
120Gb/s asynchronous
40Gb/s
Video CapabilitiesMultiple 8K
or 3 x 4K at 144Hz.
Up to 540Hz maximum
1 x 8K
or 2 x 4K at 60Hz
PowerUp to 240W,
140W mandatory support
Up to 100W
100W mandatory support

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Bandwidth

Thunderbolt 4, and Thunderbolt 3 before it, offered users the promise of high-speed data transfers. With 40Gb/s transfers, it allowed up users to easily shift files to and from external drives, making it attractive to content creators.

For Thunderbolt 5, the speed has gone up considerably, thanks to Intel's use of three-level Pulse Amplitude Modulation (PAM-3) signaling system and by the adoption of PCI-E 4 addressing rather than PCI-E 3.

In short, this can mean up to 80 gigabits per second of bi-directional bandwidth can be available to use, double that of Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4. This also technically supports the USB 4 2.0 80Gb/s specification as well.

Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 —  TB5 can offer up to 120Gbps of bandwidth [Intel] Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 — TB5 can offer up to 120Gbps of bandwidth [Intel]

However, it can offer up to 120 gigabits of bandwidth when used asynchronously. That is, it could offer a 120Gbps bandwidth pipe in one direction, and a 40Gbps feed in the other.

This asynchronous behavior isn't for normal data transfers, though. Instead, it's intended for use with video, expanding the video capabilities of the connection.

Intel also doubled the PCI Express data throughput using PCI Express Gen 4 x4, allowing for faster storage and external graphics usage.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Video

Another part of Thunderbolt's utility is for video, since it can be used to handle video for multiple monitors. Thunderbolt includes DisplayPort 2.0 support, thanks to its USB 4 compliance, so it can run displays.

Currently, Thunderbolt 4 can manage a maximum of two 4K monitors, or in some configurations, a single 8K display. Due to limitations in bandwidth, users have to trade off between resolution and refresh rate, meaning they can be limited to only 60Hz when using two 4K screens.

Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 —  More bandwidth in TB5 means more displays and higher refresh rates. Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 — More bandwidth in TB5 means more displays and higher refresh rates.

Under Thunderbolt 5, the extra available bandwidth and support for DisplayPort 2.1 makes it far more capable of running more displays.

For example, three 4K-resolution displays can be run at 144Hz apiece. There's also support for multiple 8K displays to be run at the same time, and even the potential to reach 540Hz for a single display.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Power

Thunderbolt cables can be used to deliver power between devices as well as data and video, and Thunderbolt 5 is no different.

Thunderbolt 4 could support up to 100W for charging devices. Under Thunderbolt 5, that limit goes up to 240W through a single cable.

Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 —  Thunderbolt 5 goes up to 240W, while TB4 sits at 100W Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 — Thunderbolt 5 goes up to 240W, while TB4 sits at 100W

However, you may not necessarily benefit from all of that 240W capability all the time.

Thunderbolt 4's standard included mandatory support by hardware for 100W charging. Thunderbolt 5 has a higher mandatory rate of 140W, with the 240W capable under the right combination of hardware and cables.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Compatibility

Like USB, Thunderbolt offers backward compatibility with earlier versions, and even with USB itself.

Naturally, Thunderbolt 5 hardware will work with Thunderbolt 4 devices, running based on Thunderbolt 4 standards. You will not be able to run a Thunderbolt 4 device and benefit from the higher bandwidth of Thunderbolt 5, for example.

As Thunderbolt 5 is build on top of USB 4 2.0 as well as DisplayPort 2.1 and PCI Express Gen 4, it will work with hardware using those technologies, and earlier versions too.

Thunderbolt 4 was also compliant with the USB4 specification.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Cables and labels

One area that could be a problem is an important one: cables.

So far, it is known that Thunderbolt 5 will work with existing passive cables used for Thunderbolt 4, at a length of up to 3.3 feet. Also, cables made to support USB4 will work, because of the direct cross-compatibility.

Beyond that, there's surprisingly little information published about cable compatibility, but it could become an issue, for similar reasons encountered under Thunderbolt 4. This chiefly includes labeling.

You can tell the difference between a Thunderbolt and USB-C cable, simply by spotting the little lightning bolt image. Determining whether that Thunderbolt cable is for 4 or 5 depends on if you see a 4 or 5 near that symbol.

Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 —  Not all cables have decent labels on them. Thunderbolt 5 vs Thunderbolt 4 — Not all cables have decent labels on them.

The problems here include how not every manufacturer puts that number on the cable. Then there's the passive 3.3-foot Thunderbolt 4 cables that will work properly with Thunderbolt 5, but won't be labeled as such.

We have discussed the trials and tribulations of securing a Thunderbolt 4 cable in the past, but unless there's a significant change in how cables are labeled, it will still be a headache for all involved.

Thunderbolt 4 versus Thunderbolt 5 - Faster, more power, coming very soon

For end users, Thunderbolt 5 offers significant improvements in terms of data throughput and power. More is usually better when it comes to tech standards.

The flexibility in how Thunderbolt 5 offers its bandwidth is key to its video capabilities. By shifting to an asynchronous connection, users can still enjoy data throughput at roughly Thunderbolt 4 speeds, but with significantly better video options.

Add in the usual backwards compatibility, and there's little for users to complain about.

Apple's first foray into Thunderbolt 5 occurred in its late 2024 Mac updates. Models of the Mac mini and MacBook Pro configured with the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips were equipped with upgraded Thunderbolt ports, supporting Thunderbolt 5.

Not all of the releases included the new connection, as M4-based models still used Thunderbolt 4.

The adoption by Apple is expected, and a good sign for the standard. With the initial wave out of the way, it can be expected that future model updates will use the technology until it becomes available across the entire catalog.



27 Comments

gadgetcanadav2 691 comments · 11 Years

My ideal setup is my Macbook Pro with one Thunderbolt 5 cable powering the macbook that connects to a 32" 8K monitor with a TB5 passthrough feeding another 32" 8K monitor both at 60Hz or better. The back of the monitor would have a 10GB ethernet port and 3 or 4 USB-C ports that would connect my microphone, webcam and time machine hard drive. One TB5 cable for power and all communication to my Macbook Pro would be amazing. Apple just needs to make a Studio Display Pro with those features when they release a new MBP with TB5.

Hap 19 comments · 9 Years

I've been waiting for this. All six TB3 ports on my M1 Studio Ultra are being used. I would especially like faster external storage (like PCIe5 nVME drives in a RAID0) for scratch space and I'm a huge sucker for screen real estate on my desktops. 

kmarei 209 comments · 16 Years

newsflash!
thunderbolt  6 will have a speed of 160Gb/s 
you heard it here first

DM me for my prediction of thunderbolt 7 speeds

M68000 887 comments · 7 Years

Is it time to start putting a code on the connectors of these cables to show what specs they have?  We now seem to have many flavors of TB, USB-C and HDMI.   It’s a complete circus.  One looks at these various cables and wonders what they have.

macxpress 5913 comments · 16 Years

Maybe Apple can release both a 27" 4K Pro-Motion Studio Display and a new 32 or 36" 6K or even a 40" 8K Pro-Motion XDR display now.