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Analysts contradict Apple's assessment of Q2, suggests pull-forward in demand helped

iPhone pricing could change to help with tariff costs

Despite calling Apple's Q2 earnings solid, which did beat Wall Street expectations, some analysts are suggesting customers rushing to beat tariffs helped keep numbers up in uncertain conditions.

Apple CEO Tim Cook got ahead of its earnings with a statement to CNBC suggesting that it didn't see a significant pull-forward in demand in Q2 2025. The company beat Wall Street estimates with $95.4 billion in revenue.

Some analysts, however, aren't buying that narrative from Apple. Each report viewed by AppleInsider insists that pull-forward demand caused by panic buying before the extreme tariffs in April buoyed the quarter.

According to Thomas Monteiro from Investing.com, Apple's Q2 was solid and shows Apple is prepared to navigate upcoming quarters without damaging its long-term trajectory. Margins remained healthy, which shows that there's some wiggle room and no need to deplete cash reserves to move the needle.

However, the weak Services results aren't a great indicator of short- and mid-term control, as Services have greater pricing flexibility. Apple needs Services growth to help account for raising costs without raising prices.

A note from Evercore ISI suggests the sales change in China being down to minus 2% from minus 11% in Q1 is a good sign. Apple is showing its ability to manage China headwinds via growth elsewhere, even in the current trade climate.

Emarketer shares concerns about Apple's plans to shift manufacturing to India to beat tariffs in China. The move raises questions about execution timeline, capacity limitations, and potential cost increases that will shrink margins.

Gene Munster provided an overview of the earnings call, suggesting that it seemed positive even with the uncertainty. He noted specifically that the lack of a pull-forward in demand was good news for Apple.

Wedbush was immensely positive on the results as well, suggesting that Apple seemed to be on top of the tariff situation. They raised their price target from $250 to $270 to reflect their confidence in the India supply chain and their bullishness on Apple's multi-year growth.

Overall, the analysts are positive about the Q2 results, though they all reflect that it is impossible to determine what's coming next. Apple said even if everything stayed exactly the same from today through June, it would cost the company $900 million.

Apple pushing back on the demand pull-forward arguments makes sense, as it would mean greater impact to the second half of 2025. The company is trying to maintain a positive outlook even with all of the uncertainty, and it does have a lot of ways to leverage its supply chain to avoid too much trouble.

However, if a bunch of people that normally would buy an iPhone 17 or new iPad in the fall are buying them now, it's going to reflect poorly on those later quarters. There's no public data that would tell us whether the people buying iPhones now would have otherwise been iPhone 17 customers — there's a small chance they're not.

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iooi 20 Years · 4 comments

Tariffs were announced on April the 2nd and this was after the Q2 ended. What are those analysts smoking?

ddawson100 17 Years · 553 comments

iooi said:
Tariffs were announced on April the 2nd and this was after the Q2 ended. What are those analysts smoking?

Exactly. I get that they're speculating and they think buyers are speculating (about tariffs) and people who buy stock are speculating. It's all storytelling for analysts. They are paid to share their opinion but it's like movies that are critically panned but are blockbusters when they reach the studio.

Just to be clear, I'm not down on analysts at all. They have teams of people tracking the companies that they report on. They have a lot of info, certainly more than I do. It's just that they are watching certain things, have certain timelines in mind, and worst of all, requirements to make have an opinion and make predictions. It's a hard game and it's easy to judge anyone's opinions but sometimes their stories don't reflect real world outcomes.

SiTime New User · 90 comments

iooi said:
Tariffs were announced on April the 2nd and this was after the Q2 ended. What are those analysts smoking?

Tariffs were announced well before April 2, 2025. Tariffs were announced well before the election. Trump made it incredibly-clear during the run-up to the election that he was going to slap tariffs on basically every country if he were elected. It was one of the few policy positions that Trump gave actual specifics on during the campaign. Trump has been publicly advocating for tariffs since the 1980s. None of this is a surprise. It’s not a surprise to analysts. And it’s not a surprise to many consumers (some of whom were pulling-forward some big ticket purchases back before even inauguration day).

I know some people don’t take Trump seriously in the things he says, but Trump told everybody that these tariffs were coming well before these tariffs came.

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humbug1873 3 Years · 204 comments

So most of these analysts haven't considered the growing anti-US sentiment outside of the US. Do they really think this will not negatively impact Apple sales outside of the US!? Sounds a bit naive.

SiTime New User · 90 comments

So most of these analysts haven't considered the growing anti-US sentiment outside of the US. Do they really think this will not negatively impact Apple sales outside of the US!? Sounds a bit naive.

Anti-US sentiment isn’t exactly a new phenomenon. This very specific thing is new, but anti-US sentiment in general is quite old. If anti-US sentiment was going to be an issue for Apple selling products overseas, then it would have been an issue for all of Apple’s existence as a company.

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