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Qualcomm argues continued Chinese iPhone sales violate court injunction

Qualcomm has reportedly presented a Chinese court with video evidence that Apple is still selling iPhones in the country, and insisted that this violates an injunction imposed earlier this week.

The company is now waiting on whether the court will take action, CNBC said on Wednesday. The chipmaker won a ban on Chinese iPhone sales and imports on Monday, and claims that the injunction applies to wide array of devices up to and including the iPhone X, construed as violating patents on photo editing and managing apps with a touchscreen.

Apple contends that the injunction applies only to products running older versions of iOS. Any iPhone bought from Apple currently comes preloaded with iOS 12, which if Apple's reasoning is followed would make the injunction toothless. Qualcomm unsuccessfully petitioned for a block on manufacturing iPhones in China as well.

"Qualcomm's effort to ban our products is another desperate move by a company whose illegal practices are under investigation by regulators around the world," Apple said in a statement on Monday to AppleInsider. "All iPhone models remain available for our customers in China. We will pursue all our legal options through the courts."

Apple first filed a $1 billion lawsuit against Qualcomm in January 2017, arguing that the latter was withholding patent royalty rebates as retaliation for cooperation with antitrust investigations. The battle quickly escalated, resulting in suits and countersuits around the world. In September, Qualcomm accused Apple of delivering trade secrets to Intel to improve the performance of modems.

An August settlement over similar matters saw Qualcomm pay $93 million in fines to Taiwan and promise to invest $700 million in the country over five years.

A U.S. Federal Trade Commission lawsuit actually precedes Apple's, and reached a critical turning point recently when District Judge Lucy Koh issued a preliminary ruling against Qualcomm, calling on it to license technology to rivals like Intel. Qualcomm and the FTC have been pursuing a settlement.

To put pressure on Qualcomm, Apple has been directing its manufacturers to withhold royalty payments, potentially in excess of $7 billion.

Some investors have expressed fears about the new ban, which could affect Apple's already volatile stock coping with worries about 2018 iPhone sales and the U.S.-China trade war.



27 Comments

magman1979 12 Years · 1301 comments

With each passing vile move Qualcomm makes, the more I say, let them burn in hell and go bankrupt from legal fines... I hate this company.

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maciekskontakt 16 Years · 1168 comments

With each passing vile move Qualcomm makes, the more I say, let them burn in hell and go bankrupt from legal fines... I hate this company.

An you love Apple I guess. Maybe you should take step back and look at bigger picture. It is really worth it from time to time. I am not Qualcomm lover as they used some shady patenting tactics in the past, but that is not about love or hate.

seanismorris 9 Years · 1624 comments

With each passing vile move Qualcomm makes, the more I say, let them burn in hell and go bankrupt from legal fines... I hate this company.

Management must be feeling the heat.  They’re going with “might as well go down in flames” mentality...

Qualcomm does have good products, but they need a brain transplant at the top.

My first thought is break the company up.  Unfortunately that would likely mean a new set of patent trolls... perhaps even worse that exists now.

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carnegie 11 Years · 1082 comments

AppleInsider said:...

To put pressure on Qualcomm, Apple has been directing its manufacturers to withhold royalty payments, potentially in excess of $7 billion.

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To be clear, Apple has denied this.

It's reasonable to think that Apple expected its contract manufacturers to stop making royalty payments to Qualcomm in response to Apple's actions (e.g., Apple withholding from contract manufacturers funds to compensate for royalty payments, and telling them it was doing that because of its dispute with Qualcomm). But Apple said in a court filing that it did not direct contract manufacturers to withhold payments from Qualcomm.

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carnegie 11 Years · 1082 comments

My best guess as to what's going on (based on what both Qualcomm has said and what Apple has reportedly said): The court, considering only the iOS 11 version (and, perhaps, earlier versions), found that iPhone software infringes Qualcomm's patents. So it granted Qualcomm a preliminary injunction banning sales of certain iPhone models up to iPhone X. The court either didn't decide whether iOS 12 also violated Qualcomm's patents (more likely), or otherwise didn't distinguish between the older iPhone models running iOS 11 and those same older models running iOS 12 when it issued its order. So its ban, as ordered, applied to those older models.

Apple's position is that the ban shouldn't apply to those older models if they are running iOS 12 either because the court found that iOS 12 didn't infringe (less likely) or because it didn't specifically find that iOS 12 did infringe. So, now, Apple will - along with other bases for appeal - argue that the ban shouldn't apply to older iPhone models if they are running iOS 12 because the court would first need to find that iOS 12 also infringes.

So, as issued the injunction may apply to older models even if they are running iOS 12. But Apple thinks that it shouldn't because such an injunction would go beyond what is supported by the findings that the court made.

I, of course, don't know that that is what has happened. I haven't found a copy of any written order that might have been issued. But that would be my best guess based on everything that I've seen reported.

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